Georgia: The nation's test case

Melissa

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oh, that's what's really going on?
Some shit just flies over my head.
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Mike95060

Work In Progress
oh, that's what's really going on?
Some shit just flies over my head.
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Snaggy

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Thank God for test cases. Great Britain is going to reopen schools in June. That Great Britain with 70 million people and 40 thousand dead. They estimate that only an additional 2-4K will die as a result.

Why did the UK just go Darwin and let people die? Why is it starting further large trials on hydroxychloroquine? Nothing to lose, their health care system can't handle even a small surge anyway, and if a cheap, safe placebo makes people feel a little better about that, might as well just get it over with.
 
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Climber

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Not sure what they're thinking, their cases have been trending downwards as have been their deaths, though their deaths/million have been similar and slightly higher than our for the last month.

As to the hydroxychloroquine, they could probably get it for a bargain price because the US had a huge store of it that never got used.

Not sure whre the 2-4k is coming from, their leadership seems about as accurate as ours, they're losing about 350 people a day, still.
 

Snaggy

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Not sure what they're thinking, their cases have been trending downwards as have been their deaths, though their deaths/million have been similar and slightly higher than our for the last month.

As to the hydroxychloroquine, they could probably get it for a bargain price because the US had a huge store of it that never got used.

Not sure where the 2-4k is coming from, their leadership seems about as accurate as ours, they're losing about 350 people a day, still.

The increased death with reopening schools is from an Imperial College model. Their early modelling was pretty far off but their global models are becoming accepted as pretty accurate. They were closest in New York according to Cuomo. It will be interesting to see how it goes. My wife teaches third grade and I don't have a good feeling.
 

Climber

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The increased death with reopening schools is from an Imperial College model. Their early modelling was pretty far off but their global models are becoming accepted as pretty accurate. They were closest in New York according to Cuomo. It will be interesting to see how it goes. My wife teaches third grade and I don't have a good feeling.
The problem with their model is that they don't have a similar scenario to a school setting and the kids. Also, since children are at lower risk those additional deaths would be secondary and tertiary exposures, for the most part, another area where their models might not have sufficient data to be reasonably accurate.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
Georgia seven day trailing average new hospitalizations and new death rate continues to drop and stay well below where it was at the end of SIP. New cases are near identical to end of SIP. No spike like the media predicted. Weird. I thought the media usually got these prognostications right...
 

Climber

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Georgia new death rate has indeed had a very slow decline, though I wouldn't characterize it as 'well below' where it was. It appears that the people of Georgia have been more careful than their Governor.

We don't know what the true case numbers are ever since the Governor took over those, but hopefully the death rates are accurate.

I think that people across this nation have become more knowledgeable and the masks are a game changer above all else, just as it has been proven to be the case throughout Asia where their numbers are astonishingly low.
 

GAJ

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Georgia new death rate has indeed had a very slow decline, though I wouldn't characterize it as 'well below' where it was. It appears that the people of Georgia have been more careful than their Governor.

We don't know what the true case numbers are ever since the Governor took over those, but hopefully the death rates are accurate.

I think that people across this nation have become more knowledgeable and the masks are a game changer above all else, just as it has been proven to be the case throughout Asia where their numbers are astonishingly low.

I just e'mailed my sister in Georgia, brother in Texas and brother in Florida to get a sense of whether behaviors have drastically changed since relaxation of virus distancing/sheltering.

Up to now, in Georgia, my sister hasn't changed a thing and neither have here neighbors.

My brother in Texas with no hair to speak of got a haircut and is going to the gym and in both cases reported the "professionals" were taking masking/shielding/glove precautions.
 

GAJ

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Got a response from my sister in Georgia.

I’m still seeing many masks in grocery stores, etc.
a lot of places have opened such as restaurants and breweries with tables far apart, guides on floors where to stand, hand sanitizer and reminders everywhere.

I got my hair cut and wore a mask and everyone in salon was required to.

The attitude seems more relaxed.

Interested to see what happens after all these protests!

Still not sure if there will be an actual High School graduation ceremony for (her daughter) in July or not. It’s supposed to be where I work.

I got a survey from work (at a concert venue) last week asking employees if they’d go back to work in July or not with safety guidelines.

I’m sure many said no as they’re making more $ from unemployment!
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
Georgia new death rate has indeed had a very slow decline, though I wouldn't characterize it as 'well below' where it was. It appears that the people of Georgia have been more careful than their Governor.

We don't know what the true case numbers are ever since the Governor took over those, but hopefully the death rates are accurate.

I think that people across this nation have become more knowledgeable and the masks are a game changer above all else, just as it has been proven to be the case throughout Asia where their numbers are astonishingly low.

Georgia's trailing seven day death rate was 37 on the day SIP and stayed at that level for one week after that. It is now 20. Trailing seven day hospitalizations were 157 and also stayed around that level for a week following. They are now 102. Not only have they not spiked like the media was claiming they would, they've actually gone down significantly.

Masks are not the game changer. Social distancing is the game changer and we could have been doing this a long time ago. I'll bet you when this is all over they realize that sequestering people in their houses in close quarters didn't have a positive benefit and may have even made things worse.

All that said, with the lack of social distancing at these protests, I expect we're going to see a big spike in the next few weeks.
 
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Honey Badger

...iz a girl
There's still a fair bit of social distancing in "public" places, and a lot of events are still getting cancelled or open with strict(er) restrictions.

Most people in my circles seem pretty over it - not like people are running around hugging each other, but hanging out together in a group after a track day? Doesn't seem to be a problem. Riders hanging out at the hang out spots. Hikers and campers are at the parks and packing them in.

Restruants and such still have pretty strict guidelines for anything "sit down" and other than a few events finally going again (like track days - yay!!), things don't seem too different post vs pre "lifting" of the restrictions.

My gym is still closed :(
 

Climber

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Georgia, Texas and Florida lead the country in coronavirus cases per capita

Imagine that. Who'd have thought that shitty leadership could lead to more deaths during a pandemic.

Per capita, Georgia has reported the most cases per day over a seven-day average of any state, followed by Texas and Florida. The states are led by governors who pushed to reopen during the spring, saw major summer surges of cases and are currently pushing to reopen schools.
Texas has issued a mandate requiring face masks, while Florida and Georgia have not. Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has gone so far as to keep cities from making stricter rules and has sued the city of Atlanta for trying to require face masks. Georgia has allowed restaurants, bars and gyms to open at limited capacity.

Note: This isn't a political thing, it's simply stupid leadership.
 
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Archimedes

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