Georgia: The nation's test case

[Climber]

article from the Christian Science Monitor that seems to suggest that expected spike in GA isn't happening

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Socie...ia-reopens-is-it-creating-a-model-for-America

What’s behind a model whose success bucks conventional wisdom? Some experts point to the heat, and the humidity. “The weather would be my answer,” says Michael Levitt, a Stanford biophysicist who is tracking the virus, in an interview.

There is also the possibility that the people of Georgia aren't as dumb as their governor and instead of doing what he was telling them, instead proceeded with caution for the majority of them.

I know there are several mayor's who have been very unhappy with the governor's actions, perhaps people are listening to them more than him.

At this point, it's still too early to tell, with the governor controlling the data anything is possible at this stage.

 

[GAJ]

There is also the possibility that the people of Georgia aren't as dumb as their governor and instead of doing what he was telling them, instead proceeded with caution for the majority of them.

I know there are several mayor's who have been very unhappy with the governor's actions, perhaps people are listening to them more than him.

At this point, it's still too early to tell, with the governor controlling the data anything is possible at this stage.

My sister in Georgia, Atlanta, hasn't changed a thing in terms of maintaining social distancing/mostly staying at home and neither have her neighbors.

Same for siblings in Texas and Florida.

 

[Mike95060]

My sister in Georgia, Atlanta, hasn't changed a thing in terms of maintaining social distancing/mostly staying at home and neither have her neighbors.

Same for siblings in Texas and Florida.

Am I reading you correctly? The gov. says, "go do all the things!" and peoples reaction is "no thanks I'm still very concerned I'm going to continue to hold back."

If the above is true we are in for a very long recession/depression. If demand is gone out of fear, even when our leaders say its all good, its going to be a very difficult recovery.

 

[rothmans]

Am I reading you correctly? The gov. says, "go do all the things!" and peoples reaction is "no thanks I'm still very concerned I'm going to continue to hold back."

If the above is true we are in for a very long recession/depression. If demand is gone out of fear, even when our leaders say its all good, its going to be a very difficult recovery.

Yes, this is true. People were already cancelling trips and going out before any stay at home orders. People will do what they believe to be in their best interests.

 

[rothmans]

At this point, it's still too early to tell, with the governor controlling the data anything is possible at this stage.

It's not too early to tell, you said the cases would be spiking at the end of May and here we are. And saying the governor is manipulating the data is a conspiracy theory.

 

[Climber]

It's not too early to tell, you said the cases would be spiking at the end of May and here we are. And saying the governor is manipulating the data is a conspiracy theory.

We're not at the end of may.

And it's incredibly rich that you, of all people, would be accusing somebody of a conspiracy theory! :rofl :rofl :rofl

 

[Yakoo752]

If demand is gone out of fear, even when our leaders say its all good, its going to be a very difficult recovery.

it's pretty easy to show that even releasing shelter in place isn't encouraging people to go out and spend. We've got a good way to go before consumer confidence is recovered (I'm using this confidence as a way to understand shelter in place adherence and self shelter in place)

https://hzn.horizonconsumerscience....pandemic-response-disrupted-economy/index.hzn

I mean, when 64% of Americans are not seeking care out of concern of visiting the Dr... that's pretty wild.

 

[gixxerjeff]

Am I reading you correctly? The gov. says, "go do all the things!" and peoples reaction is "no thanks I'm still very concerned I'm going to continue to hold back."

If the above is true we are in for a very long recession/depression. If demand is gone out of fear, even when our leaders say its all good, its going to be a very difficult recovery.

Define leader.
Are you one of the lemmings that will blindly follow the leader off a cliff?
Looks like it from here.

 

[tuxumino]

It's not too early to tell, you said the cases would be spiking at the end of May and here we are. And saying the governor is manipulating the data is a conspiracy theory.

actually probably won't have even the slightest clue till mid June. The data collection seems to be all over the board and jumping around day to day. Need some long term data to see trends and we don't have that now.

Like I say it's like riding a road you've never been on: you've been hitting some nice sweepers then come upon a decreasing radius turn that you thought would be a sweeper. Do you just try to corner harder and maybe wash out, do you try your best trail braking to make the turn or do you give up brake hard and hope there isn't a semi in the on coming lane.

maybe you shouldn't have out rode your sight lines to begin with?

 

[Mike95060]

Define leader.
Are you one of the lemmings that will blindly follow the leader off a cliff?
Looks like it from here.

The fuck are you talking about? I'm using "dear leader" as a pejorative here. In my own personal opinion we have had almost ZERO actual leadership from the Federal government.

We have seen some leadership from state governments.

I could go on about how you look from here but in the interest of not being a cock-nozzle i'll keep those thoughts to myself....

 

[bojangle]

Define leader.
Are you one of the lemmings that will blindly follow the leader off a cliff?
Looks like it from here.

:laughing

I don't really think you've paid attention to Mike's posting history at all. I definitely wouldn't characterize him like that. Kinda ridiculous, actually.

 

[GAJ]

Am I reading you correctly? The gov. says, "go do all the things!" and peoples reaction is "no thanks I'm still very concerned I'm going to continue to hold back."

That is indeed true; they won't let their guard fully down until a vaccine is found.

So no vacation trips, flights, hotels, rental cars, concerts, sit down restaurants, large family gatherings etc.

But the stock market doesn't believe them and the 2/3 of the population that generally feels the same way.

 

[Yakoo752]

That is indeed true; they won't let their guard fully down until a vaccine is found.

So no vacation trips, flights, hotels, rental cars, concerts, sit down restaurants, large family gatherings etc.

But the stock market doesn't believe them and the 2/3 of the population that generally feels the same way.

It's rather interesting how politics influences this

https://apps.npr.org/dailygraphics/graphics/marist-states-return-20200519/

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/20/8594...t-return-to-normal-will-take-6-months-or-more

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...ll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202005191427.pdf#page=3

 

[Climber]

It's rather interesting how politics influences this

https://apps.npr.org/dailygraphics/graphics/marist-states-return-20200519/

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/20/8594...t-return-to-normal-will-take-6-months-or-more

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-con...ll_USA-NOS-and-Tables_202005191427.pdf#page=3

I don't think we've ever been at a point in this nation's history where the nations 'news' sources have posted such disparate 'facts', that isn't directly about politicians, that are so far apart as we're now seeing.

 

[gixxerjeff]

The fuck are you talking about? I'm using "dear leader" as a pejorative here. In my own personal opinion we have had almost ZERO actual leadership from the Federal government.

We have seen some leadership from state governments.

Then I apologize for misreading your post. It came across to me as if you were defending the actions of governors of states like Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc.
A reading comprehension problem on my end perhaps.

 

[Mike95060]

Then I apologize for misreading your post. It came across to me as if you were defending the actions of governors of states like Georgia, Florida, Texas, etc.
A reading comprehension problem on my end perhaps.

It's cool Jeff. I'm certainly not in that camp. I want best practices and shared sacrifice to be a thing we all do. I expect how we do that will evolve as we learn more. I want people who have been effected the most by this economically, that ain't me I been damn lucky, to be taken care of. I want their bills payed. I'm ok going to work and paying taxes when other cant. I want out chosen leaders to give a shit about all the little people who really make the world go round.

I'm trying to be understanding of the anti lockdown crowd. If I were going into massive debt, If my kids were hungry, If I might be getting evicted I might too be harsh towards those who wanted me to stay put and not work. I don't want to write off everyone who is struggling. I want them helped. I want them taken care of. THAT is leadership in my book.

Team blue politicians would be wise to tap the frustrations of the struggling and point them where I think they belong, our current "leadership" at the top.

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[GAJ]

It's cool Jeff. I'm certainly not in that camp. I want best practices and shared sacrifice to be a thing we all do. I expect how we do that will evolve as we learn more. I want people who have been effected the most by this economically, that ain't me I been damn lucky, to be taken care of. I want their bills payed. I'm ok going to work and paying taxes when other cant. I want out chosen leaders to give a shit about all the little people who really make the world go round.

I'm trying to be understanding of the anti lockdown crowd. If I were going into massive debt, If my kids were hungry, If I might be getting evicted I might too be harsh towards those who wanted me to stay put and not work. I don't want to write off everyone who is struggling. I want them helped. I want them taken care of. THAT is leadership in my book.

Team blue politicians would be wise to tap the frustrations of the struggling and point them where I think they belong, our current "leadership" at the top.

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:thumbup

Shocking that in Florida the Governor, Removed for political content, insists that everyone who applied properly for unemployment is getting their checks and back checks.

Neither is true.

The lucky few who get checks usually don't get back checks.

Two people I know who applied in March are still waiting; 6 weeks is fast there, 2 months or more seems to be the norm...IF you get it.

 

[gixxerjeff]

It's cool Jeff. I'm certainly not in that camp. I want best practices and shared sacrifice to be a thing we all do.

I'm trying to be understanding of the anti lockdown crowd.

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Thanks Mike.
Again, I apologize.
As I have stated in other posts and threads this is a high voltage topic for me. My G/F is immune compromised and my love for her prompts me to over react sometimes.
That said, I'm glad we are on the same page.

 

[Mike95060]

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Thanks Mike.
Again, I apologize.
As I have stated in other posts and threads this is a high voltage topic for me. My G/F is immune compromised and my love for her prompts me to over react sometimes.
That said, I'm glad we are on the same page.

My sister is a nurse in NJ. I been scared thinking about her. I hear ya man.

 

[Melissa]

always great see see how 2 awesome dudes can talk it through and work it out.
Appreciations.