Georgia: The nation's test case

[Yakoo752]

Montgomery Alabama has run out of ICU beds as of this morning.

 

[mikev]

yeah but Karen can get her nails done. So really is it a big deal?

 

[bojangle]

yeah but Karen can get her nails done. So really is it a big deal?

Wouldn't want to go to the ICU without your nails did! What would they think?

 

[Yakoo752]

More shit data

this time from the CDC

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/

combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus.

it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests

I'll let the medical/science staff in here comment as why this is egregious

unless you actually read the article, they do a good job explaining as well.

 

[bojangle]

Geez! Amateur hour over there! :rolleyes

 

[Archimedes]

More shit data

this time from the CDC

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/...-test-data-pennsylvania-georgia-texas/611935/

combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus.

it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests

I'll let the medical/science staff in here comment as why this is egregious

unless you actually read the article, they do a good job explaining as well.

What does any of that have to do with new hospitalizations and new deaths, both of which continued to fall yesterday?

 

[Archimedes]

Jesus fucking Christ.

Again you fail to read what you fucking cite

Sources: Georgia Department of Public Health, Georgia Emergency Management & Homeland Security Agency

If their analysis is based on shit data?

GIGO

:laughing So again, you think they are fudging actual deaths and the number of people being hospitalized in the actual datasets? You think literally, since SIP ended, the State started altering the datasets related to who is actually dying or being hospitalized in the data being gathered from the health systems? Again, what evidence do you have to support that?

And don't say bar charts or antibody tests, because neither has anything whatsoever with the actual death or hospitalization count.

 

[Yakoo752]

Again, do you have proof they are being truthful?

I have evidence they intentionally mislead the public.

I don't know why this is so difficult for you.

They LIED and got CAUGHT.

And you're screaming "TRUST THEM"

 

[Yakoo752]

What does any of that have to do with new hospitalizations and new deaths, both of which continued to fall yesterday?

because business is using this data to make decisions on when to open up. The article does a great job explaining this

are you intentionally being obtuse?

 

[Yakoo752]

What does any of that have to do with new hospitalizations and new deaths, both of which continued to fall yesterday?

Local peninsula medical group has 0 deaths for the last 3 days. this morning theyre at 14

you can't use a single days data

I don't diasgree, the trend on average is going down. I hope it continues too do so as well.

BUT I am looking for factual evidence and data in order to develop a strategy in which to open a business that employees 2500 people globally. I REQUIRE accurate data that isn't being bullshitted with for political gain.

I CANNOT encourage my business to begin opening at this stage in these states because their data cannot be trusted.

 

[Yakoo752]

Put it into perspective. We have staff in all 50 states. We have offices in a handful. The Mountain View and German office will open in a few weeks for certain staff. The Milpitas and Nashville offices have remained open as deemed essential. This Chicago, NYC, Raleigh, UK, and Italy offices will remain closed. I'm using their local data to drive decisions.

Can I use the CDC and GA data?

I'm not comfortable with it and we are comfortable keeping staff on payroll until we're comfortable with it.

The worst part is when I have people in the org say to just use the data. I just ask them to put it in writing to me via email so I can document their decision. How many emails do you think I've received?

 

[Blankpage]

:laughing So again, you think they are fudging actual deaths and the number of people being hospitalized in the actual datasets? You think literally, since SIP ended, the State started altering the datasets related to who is actually dying or being hospitalized in the data being gathered from the health systems? Again, what evidence do you have to support that?

And don't say bar charts or antibody tests, because neither has anything whatsoever with the actual death or hospitalization count.

You blindly accept anything that fits your argument. There's evidence data is being manipulated to look like more testing is being done then actual. Outside forces are pulling strings at what the CDC reports and you can't see a political benefit to changing the numbers. :laughing:laughing:laughing you like smilies so threw some in for you

Now you pretend the death rate and hospitalized dataset can't be fudged when its being fudged on a global scale. Deaths get labeled as heart attack or pneumonia instead of covid and so the coast is clear get back to work.

 

[nbean16]

You blindly accept anything that fits your argument. There's evidence data is being manipulated to look like more testing is being done then actual. Outside forces are pulling strings at what the CDC reports and you can't see a political benefit to changing the numbers. :laughing:laughing:laughing you like smilies so threw some in for you

Now you pretend the death rate and hospitalized dataset can't be fudged when its being fudged on a global scale. Deaths get labeled as heart attack or pneumonia instead of covid and so the coast is clear get back to work.

Just like anything that doesn't fit your argument is flatly rejected.


II'm sorry Archimedes, but even if every single statistic showed the SIP wasn't working you would have a team of barfers denying it. Some barfers foamed at the mouth so much over this thing there could be no possible admitting the SIP may not have been effective and the shutdown wasn't worth it. Maybe it was super successful, I don't know, but nothing will change their minds on that if it wasn't. A handful of them would almost assuredly trade more death so they could be right. I don't buy all the phony concern they have over every issue. Barf is about berating other people into agreeing with you.

 

[bojangle]

Put it into perspective. We have staff in all 50 states. We have offices in a handful. The Mountain View and German office will open in a few weeks for certain staff. The Milpitas and Nashville offices have remained open as deemed essential. This Chicago, NYC, Raleigh, UK, and Italy offices will remain closed. I'm using their local data to drive decisions.

Can I use the CDC and GA data?

I'm not comfortable with it and we are comfortable keeping staff on payroll until we're comfortable with it.

The worst part is when I have people in the org say to just use the data. I just ask them to put it in writing to me via email so I can document their decision. How many emails do you think I've received?

Good! :thumbup

 

[Blankpage]

Just like anything that doesn't fit your argument is flatly rejected.


II'm sorry Archimedes, but even if every single statistic showed the SIP wasn't working you would have a team of barfers denying it. Some barfers foamed at the mouth so much over this thing there could be no possible admitting the SIP may not have been effective and the shutdown wasn't worth it. Maybe it was super successful, I don't know, but nothing will change their minds on that if it wasn't. A handful of them would almost assuredly trade more death so they could be right. I don't buy all the phony concern they have over every issue. Barf is about berating other people into agreeing with you.

One side points out how the data is manipulated giving examples. The other side attacks the character of those questioning that data with suppositions about wishing death on the masses.
Funny you’d accuse others of berating while defending the only poster here who is guilty of it.

 

[mlm]

Just like anything that doesn't fit your argument is flatly rejected.


II'm sorry Archimedes, but even if every single statistic showed the SIP wasn't working you would have a team of barfers denying it. Some barfers foamed at the mouth so much over this thing there could be no possible admitting the SIP may not have been effective and the shutdown wasn't worth it. Maybe it was super successful, I don't know, but nothing will change their minds on that if it wasn't. A handful of them would almost assuredly trade more death so they could be right. I don't buy all the phony concern they have over every issue. Barf is about berating other people into agreeing with you.

#potkettleblack

 

[nbean16]

#potkettleblack

Oh look, one of the handful now.

 

[bojangle]

Just like anything that doesn't fit your argument is flatly rejected.


II'm sorry Archimedes, but even if every single statistic showed the SIP wasn't working you would have a team of barfers denying it. Some barfers foamed at the mouth so much over this thing there could be no possible admitting the SIP may not have been effective and the shutdown wasn't worth it. Maybe it was super successful, I don't know, but nothing will change their minds on that if it wasn't. A handful of them would almost assuredly trade more death so they could be right. I don't buy all the phony concern they have over every issue. Barf is about berating other people into agreeing with you.

You could just as easily say this ABOUT Archimedes.

 

[Climber]

Georgia had a spike yesterday of 78 deaths, their highest in almost a month (79 on 4/27) with their highest single day number being a spike up to 100/day but that looks like a bunch of unreported deaths getting reported on a single day. With 7 day averaging applied, this is their highest total throughout the whole pandemic.

It may just be an abheration, or it could be the start of the climb, time will tell.

 

[Yakoo752]

Georgia had a spike yesterday of 78 deaths, their highest in almost a month (79 on 4/27) with their highest single day number being a spike up to 100/day but that looks like a bunch of unreported deaths getting reported on a single day. With 7 day averaging applied, this is their highest total throughout the whole pandemic.

It may just be an abheration, or it could be the start of the climb, time will tell.

a lot of places had death spikes yesterday.

Local hospital had 0 deaths for a while, 14 yesterday

Stanford has a total of 4 covid patients (as of Tuesday morning)