Do you have it? Covid-19

[Sharky]

I asked if I can rejoin my household and was told No not until 14 days after symptoms are gone.

Since the rona hasnt been ruled out, better to be safe than sorry!

 

[ctwo]

Test results came back!!! :banana

Not detected but with this disclaimer



I don't even know what that means.

I hope you're doing well and stay well.

I can't offer any faith in our system and rather think it worse than just incompetence.

 

[HadesOmega]

I'm wondering if I had it around Christmas time I very flu like symptoms with what I thought was the flu even though I got my flu shot this year, I'm now close to 100% but all this craziness is happening now. I'm an Uber driver so I probably got it from one of my passengers.

If you had it and recovered would a test show up positive?

 

[bojangle]

I'm wondering if I had it around Christmas time I very flu like symptoms with what I thought was the flu even though I got my flu shot this year, I'm now close to 100% but all this craziness is happening now. I'm an Uber driver so I probably got it from one of my passengers.

If you had it and recovered would a test show up positive?

There are antibody tests now to check and see if you've had it, recovered, and are now immune. If I were you I'd be wanting to take that test.

 

[Cabrito]

There are antibody tests now to check and see if you've had it, recovered, and are now immune. If I were you I'd be wanting to take that test.

How do you get this test? Is it different than the regular test?

Also, are they now considering that folks who were sick in Dec/Jan like HadesOmega, myself, and others might have had it?

 

[Yakoo752]

It's a blood test

Stanford was piloting them this weekend. 4-7 day turn around

There are antibody tests now to check and see if you've had it, recovered, and are now immune. If I were you I'd be wanting to take that test.

The bolded may not be true, that's tbd. It's why some vaccines have booster series

 

[Climber]

How do you get this test? Is it different than the regular test?

Also, are they now considering that folks who were sick in Dec/Jan like HadesOmega, myself, and others might have had it?

Several of us were sick early Feb with a high fever and very bad lung congestion along with a very nasty sore throat. We might have had it, or it might have been a very nasty flu/cold virus that was going around.

We won't know until we've had an antibody test.

 

[Yakoo752]

Several of us were sick early Feb with a high fever and very bad lung congestion along with a very nasty sore throat. We might have had it, or it might have been a very nasty flu/cold virus that was going around.

We won't know until we've had an antibody test.

Even if you test positive for the antibody, I wouldn't correlate what you had to corona either. You could have been an asymptomatic carrier and what you had was a nasty flu/cold virus.

 

[Climber]

Even if you test positive for the antibody, I wouldn't correlate what you had to corona either. You could have been an asymptomatic carrier and what you had was a nasty flu/cold virus.

All true. It was the worst cold/flu that I had in over a decade, if that's what it was. I think it was Snaggy who said that there was a significant high incident of strep throat before the covid-19 hit.

 

[bojangle]

It's a blood test

Stanford was piloting them this weekend. 4-7 day turn around



The bolded may not be true, that's tbd. It's why some vaccines have booster series

True. I should have said believed to be immune.

All true. It was the worst cold/flu that I had in over a decade, if that's what it was. I think it was Snaggy who said that there was a significant high incident of strep throat before the covid-19 hit.

There were reports that this year was a particularly nasty flu season. I now wonder how many of those earlier flu cases were actually covid-19.

 

[Climber]

True. I should have said believed to be immune.



There were reports that this year was a particularly nasty flu season. I now wonder how many of those earlier flu cases were actually covid-19.

We won't know until we get comprehensive testing.

The Feds should be conducting these tests (read pay for) in order to ensure the entire population gets tested.

I think people should get protected from their insurance company getting access to results, I don't trust insurance companies to not exploit a negative test on antibodies.

 

[Lazerus]

We won't know until we get comprehensive testing.

The Feds should be conducting these tests (read pay for) in order to ensure the entire population gets tested.

I think people should get protected from their insurance company getting access to results, I don't trust insurance companies to not exploit a negative test on antibodies.

Have you been following our response? The companies are the federal government. Fed's like here's some rotted masks and broken vents. Companies are like "here's some stuff that not broken, that'll be 8x the normal price Mr (insert state)" and some rad donations, as well. And some that didn't work as intended (Tesla).

I think we'll have the next pandemic before the federal government rolls out testing for this one.

(Does this new forum have a Ptrap? If so, off I go :laughing)

 

[Climber]

Nah, you're speaking in general terms, not singling out one party or the other.

 

[ctwo]

There were reports that this year was a particularly nasty flu season. I now wonder how many of those earlier flu cases were actually covid-19.

There were a whole lot, I even mused such an idea. It's wishful thinking.

If it were that prevalent so early on, I'd expect a lot more people in the ER's during that time.

 

[ThumperX]

John Prine died

 

[dagle]

one of the members on another enthusiast forum had it and posted about his experience. He's old, heavy, asthmatic, hypertension and high blood pressure.

I know some perfectly healthy, young and fit people drop dead 24 hours after first showing coronavirus symptoms. I know some elderly people are on ventilators within a week of someone coughing 27 feet away from them. And I know someone on some cruise ship touched a handrail that coronavirus had been living on since the Reagan administration. I get all that, and I'm not a scientist capable of disputing it.

What I can say is that three weeks ago...right as they began closing down schools, my 6 year old granddaughter got a dry cough and a fever that went to 103. It only lasted one day. She was happy and boucing off walls within 36 hours. At the time, my daughter said she luckily avoided getting sick, but in retrospect, she says she felt lethargic, had very little energy, felt achy and had a mild sore throat.

My wife spent substantial time with my daughter and granddaughter, and on March 25th, she reported similar symptoms. Sore throat. Body ache. Wanting to sleep 12-14 hours. We all joked 'do you have coronavirus??'....but back then we all 'knew' that if she did, it had to be MUCH MUCH worse.

Then on March 30 or 31st, I felt chest tightness. I'm overweight, in my late 50s and have asthma. This felt like asthma....not bad asthma, but asthma where I would probably tell the softball league that I was skipping the next game and would cancel the bicycle ride I had planned with my son-in-law, and just sit around the house and watch TV. My neck and shoulders were stiff, my throat was sore, and all I wanted to do was take a nap. My wife said "you've got pre-existing conditions. Asthma, pre-hypertension, overweight, older. You should go get tested for Coronavirus".

I called my doctor at Scripps. They said they were out of test kits. None available and none coming in...at least not for people with mild to moderate symptoms. He said he could swab me for a sample, but I wouldn't know the results for at least 14-17 days! He said they were saving test kits for people who needed the emergency room. He said 80-90% of COVID-19 patients had mild symptoms like the ones my granddaughter, daughter, wife and I had, and most people just got better. So assume we had it, self quarantine and probably be completely better in a few days....no big deal?

Well I was still worried. I was the one doing all the shopping. I wasn't going to self quarantine and send my wife and daughters out, after I had seen people scuffling at costco over Clorox Wipes or seen the cops needing to be called at Albertsons because some moron pulled the toilet paper out of another person's cart. I'm the CCW carrier. I'm the 220lb, 6'1" male who probably won't get messed with by some loser wanting my ground beef, so i'm not going to self sequester for bodyache.

I called an old acquaintance who's an emergency room doc in La Jolla. He said he could get me tested if I came in, so I did. Swabbed my nose, and today I get the call - I've got Coronavirus. I fit a bunch of high risk catagories. Im fat. I wheeze. I've got high blood pressure. I'm old. I've probably had Coronavirus for a week now. And I'm completely fine. I played tennis with my wife two days ago. Wheezed a little...didn't feel the greatest, but didn't feel like i was going to drop dead. Never had a fever. Never needed a ventilator.

After sharing this, I heard from an old business colleague in Europe. He got coronavirus and went into the hospital a few weeks ago. Said his breathing was really bad, but they gave him the malaria drug and an HIV drug, and he was back at home in 4 days and is feeling great.

I heard from my old realtor buddy. His kid in LA had coronavirus. He said his kid went back and forth from high fever to chills to high fever for 9 or 10 straight days and couldn't taste food well...even till now. But that was the worst of it.

So we are shutting our whole economy down for this? We are sacrificing people's jobs, their homes, their life savings.....for this? From my vantage point, it feels ridiculous. I'm so sure other people have a different angle on it. For me and my family, it was like a cold. For the others I've spoken to, it was worse than the flu is some ways and better in others.

I'm fortunate to be the oldest living and least healthy person in my family. So i don't have to worry about losing a beloved grandparent or person with emphysema. I know it's been rough in Italy, New York, heck, LA. But wow....just wow. My experience hasn't been the experience I'm reading about or watching on TV.

 

[bpw]

Dudes also a jackass for going shopping while knowing he was infectious due to some bizarre idea that society is failing and you can't go shopping without a handgun (In La Jolla!). Stuff like that will be a big determinate of how quickly we can start re-opening the country. The more people do dumb things that infects others the longer we have to keep things shut down. His experience is actually very typical, Covid is real bad, but the vast majority of people who get it will still be fine. That is why we use data not anecdotes to decide whats happening.

 

[bojangle]

one of the members on another enthusiast forum had it and posted about his experience. He's old, heavy, asthmatic, hypertension and high blood pressure.

Big deal. We already know 80+% of the cases are mild to moderate. It's the very fact that this is a highly contagious global pandemic, where 20% need hospitalization, that's the problem. People are dying from this and there's no cure.

The person you quoted should feel lucky he didn't have a worse case. He also doesn't sound very socially responsible, and probably helped spread it around to others.

You're on this kick where you want to convince everyone this is no big deal. Is it because you're out of work and hurting for money? Does it help you deal with this by convincing yourself it's no big deal?

 

[ThumperX]

Big deal. We already know 80+% of the cases are mild to moderate. It's the very fact that this is a highly contagious global pandemic, where 20% need hospitalization, that's the problem. People are dying from this and there's no cure.

The person you quoted should feel lucky he didn't have a worse case. He also doesn't sound very socially responsible, and probably helped spread it around to others.

You're on this kick where you want to convince everyone this is no big deal. Is it because you're out of work and hurting for money? Does it help you deal with this by convincing yourself it's no big deal?

This this this this and this!!! The 20% needing hospitalization isn't even a big deal if it can be spread out over time but the 20% needing hospital are all showing up together enmasse! Because of this, The Who knows % die because there is no place to get them well. NYC reported up to 213 die at homes a day, these were not tested for COVID-19 and many have wound up on Harts Island as unclaimed.

 

[Sharky]

Big deal. We already know 80+% of the cases are mild to moderate. It's the very fact that this is a highly contagious global pandemic, where 20% need hospitalization, that's the problem. People are dying from this and there's no cure.

The person you quoted should feel lucky he didn't have a worse case. He also doesn't sound very socially responsible, and probably helped spread it around to others.

You're on this kick where you want to convince everyone this is no big deal. Is it because you're out of work and hurting for money? Does it help you deal with this by convincing yourself it's no big deal?

Where is this 20% hospitalization figure coming from? The only way this can be confirmed is when there is complete testing of the entire population. There is some information that far more people have contracted the virus, the virus has run its course, and no medical treatment was sought/required. Those aren't counted are they?
I don't really know what the answer is, but the number of infected has got to be more than the tested positive figures indicate and therefore the number of patients requiring hospitalization (your figure of 20%) cannot be accurate when expressed in terms of a percentage as mentioned above.

Certainly, if the expression was, 20% of known cases require hospitalization....that could be an accurate statement, but certainly is misleading.