Be careful how you option that new car

[mrzuzzo]

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Those cars are incredibly unsafe by today's standards. With so many brodozers and distracted drivers around, is driving an antique as a daily driver worth it?

Just being rearended in one of those cars by any big SUV or truck will probably land you in the hospital.

My Ford Ranger does have airbags but it's still unsafe by today's standards. I only drive it when I need to haul.

I know we all ride bikes, but there is no really safe alternative to motorcycles, whereas one is readily available to those old cars.

 

[Blankpage]

My cousin had a auto body repair shop and seemed there were a lot more issues with windup than with power Windows. I remember him having to push up on windows while also cranking the handles. Windows going out of alignment and such stuff I’ve never seen with power windows.

 

[GAJ]

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Without question cars built before 2007 or so are very unsafe relative to modern cars but as you also noted, with my 1994 Miata I drive it as if I'm on a motorcycle.

The car we drive most is my wife's 2019 CX5 turbo so I'm not all that worried to be honest.

Fifth Gear crashed a 2007 version of some minivan into the same model from 1997 and the difference in terms of passenger/driver intrusion was dramatic with the newer car pointing to a simple walk away vs the older crash being possible fatal as the leg area vanished post crash.

So I think if you are late 2000s you are in decent shape even by today's standards.

 

[Eldritch]

You too. I finally bought a car with power windows. My first one. While I love them, every time I think about them, I think: "Fuck, when that breaks it's going to cost a fortune.":laughing

Yeah, I mean, I have changed them out myself before on older cars, it isn;t that big a deal, it is just a gumpy old man grumble I have. Don't even get me started on power seats...

:laughing

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Those cars are incredibly unsafe by today's standards. With so many brodozers and distracted drivers around, is driving an antique as a daily driver worth it?

Just being rearended in one of those cars by any big SUV or truck will probably land you in the hospital.

My Ford Ranger does have airbags but it's still unsafe by today's standards. I only drive it when I need to haul.

I know we all ride bikes, but there is no really safe alternative to motorcycles, whereas one is readily available to those old cars.

Is this some shit you really think about that hard? I seriously give safety features zero consideration when shopping a car.

Like you said, we ride bikes. :dunno

 

[bikeama]

I love high tech cars. The convenience is great but so much we just take for granted. FI works so much better than a carb. Who wants to go back to points and condensers? I just bought my first Ford. 2021 Coachmen Class B on a 2020 Ford Transit 350. Cruise is adaptive and slows with the traffic and then speeds up, still getting used to that. Smart AWD that is adjustable to conditions. Auto crash braking and if you do crash it calls 911 with GPS info. Push a button on the steering wheel and say what you want or where you want to go and the LCD in the dash takes care of it. Headlights and wipers come on automatically when needed. V6 with dual turbos gives good mileage, HP, and torque. App on phone and I can control all the Coach equipment from the phone.

Not going back to points and condensors.

 

[Map8]

Whole lotta BARFers buying Flintstone cars. Odd flex.

 

[Eldritch]

I love high tech cars. The convenience is great but so much we just take for granted. FI works so much better than a carb. Who wants to go back to points and condensers? I just bought my first Ford. 2021 Coachmen Class B on a 2020 Ford Transit 350. Cruise is adaptive and slows with the traffic and then speeds up, still getting used to that. Smart AWD that is adjustable to conditions. Auto crash braking and if you do crash it calls 911 with GPS info. Push a button on the steering wheel and say what you want or where you want to go and the LCD in the dash takes care of it. Headlights and wipers come on automatically when needed. V6 with dual turbos gives good mileage, HP, and torque. App on phone and I can control all the Coach equipment from the phone.

Not going back to points and condensors.

I'm glad you are happy with your space tank, but I find the idea of most the functions you just described very upsetting. :laughing

I had a hard enough time accepting that it was ok for me to drive cars with automatic transmissions.

:laughing

 

[Shaggy]

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Those cars are incredibly unsafe by today's standards. With so many brodozers and distracted drivers around, is driving an antique as a daily driver worth it?

Just being rearended in one of those cars by any big SUV or truck will probably land you in the hospital.

My Ford Ranger does have airbags but it's still unsafe by today's standards. I only drive it when I need to haul.

I know we all ride bikes, but there is no really safe alternative to motorcycles, whereas one is readily available to those old cars.

It’s a tin can for sure, but...

My commute to work is under 10 miles with little/no traffic. It’s not on my list of concerns at all. I don’t take my family anywhere in it. It’s strictly used around town and to/from work.

My requirements were that it needed to be a compact pickup that was reliable, got decent decent fuel economy, and under $3k. That basically narrowed it down to 90s Mazda B2000s, Ford Rangers, and Toyota Pickups.

I might use it to haul my race bike to Thunderhill for a trackday here and there, but the lack of AC is usually a deal breaker for that since summertime in Willows is usually +95°F.

If I’m hauling family, we have a 2017 Acura MDX and a 2006 Dodge Ram 3500 crew cab long bed dually for those duties. The Acura is incredibly safe and the Dodge is gonna win in a crash with 95% of cars on the road.

 

[951dude]

Ha, same year Camry here with the same dead battery last year. Bulbs are all good though. No other issues except self-inflicted ones. 34K miles.

2013. 77k miles. Just 2 dead batteries.

 

[Blankpage]

I'm glad you are happy with your space tank, but I find the idea of most the functions you just described very upsetting. :laughing

I had a hard enough time accepting that it was ok for me to drive cars with automatic transmissions.

:laughing

So you’re gonna limit yourself to 1990’s cars for the rest of your life?
Or 20 years from now you’ll have finally warmed up to 2020’s tech?
Why lag so far behind, embrace what lies before you, or just get yourself a 1977 AMC Gremlin and drive to your death.

 

[Abacinator]

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Those cars are incredibly unsafe by today's standards. With so many brodozers and distracted drivers around, is driving an antique as a daily driver worth it?

Just being rearended in one of those cars by any big SUV or truck will probably land you in the hospital.

My Ford Ranger does have airbags but it's still unsafe by today's standards. I only drive it when I need to haul.

I know we all ride bikes, but there is no really safe alternative to motorcycles, whereas one is readily available to those old cars.

Don't crash?

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

So the guys that daily drive the 1990 Toyota Hilux and the ancient miata, how do you deal with the safety factor?

Those cars are incredibly unsafe by today's standards. With so many brodozers and distracted drivers around, is driving an antique as a daily driver worth it?

Just being rearended in one of those cars by any big SUV or truck will probably land you in the hospital.

My Ford Ranger does have airbags but it's still unsafe by today's standards. I only drive it when I need to haul.

I know we all ride bikes, but there is no really safe alternative to motorcycles, whereas one is readily available to those old cars.

Exactly. To deal with the safety “factor” they pull their britches, don’t act uppity and simply drive better and don’t crash. :dunno

Is this some shit you really think about that hard? I seriously give safety features zero consideration when shopping a car.

Like you said, we ride bikes. :dunno

Just think in reverse however and see that stuff like this is probably there’s like an arms race for newer and bigger vehicles... because people think like that :nerd ..just like in schools I hear? If some kids can’t catch up, (they give them a trophy- ) and now everyone has to drive bigger and more expensive vehicles?

 

[bikeama]

I'm glad you are happy with your space tank, but I find the idea of most the functions you just described very upsetting. :laughing

I had a hard enough time accepting that it was ok for me to drive cars with automatic transmissions.

:laughing

Not a problem*. Just flip the lever to Manual and you have 10 gears to choose from.

* I learned to drive in a 1941 International 4 speed Non-Syncro. Got good a double-clutching for downshifts. :afm199

 

[Blankpage]

Not a problem*. Just flip the lever to Manual and you have 10 gears to choose from.

I don’t think many actually do that. If the paddles were an accessory option I’d probably not bother to pay for it. Tried using them and gave up almost immediately.

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[Blankpage]

Is this some shit you really think about that hard? I seriously give safety features zero consideration when shopping a car.

Like you said, we ride bikes. :dunno

I know a few people killed car accidents when I was in HS who’d likely still be here had their cars been equipped with airbags.

Lots of people thought hard about this shit but it’s become common enough that you don’t have to think about it since it’s become standard equipment.

 

[Eldritch]

So you’re gonna limit yourself to 1990’s cars for the rest of your life?
Or 20 years from now you’ll have finally warmed up to 2020’s tech?
Why lag so far behind, embrace what lies before you, or just get yourself a 1977 AMC Gremlin and drive to your death.

LOL, I do not drive 1990's cars. My Challenger is not brand new to 2021, but relatively modern. I can tell you though, the kind of cars I drive do not typically have all that kind of autodrive shit even available to be built into them.

:dunno

When full auto drive is available, I may then be interested in that so I can just sleep while on the road, but until that time, I intend to be the one doing the driving.

Not a problem*. Just flip the lever to Manual and you have 10 gears to choose from.

* I learned to drive in a 1941 International 4 speed Non-Syncro. Got good a double-clutching for downshifts. :afm199

I don't think what you said is syncing with what I said. :laughing

 

[TheRobSJ]

Whole lotta BARFers buying Flintstone cars. Odd flex.

I know right! I think my last bike (a Harley ironically enough) had way more tech than some of these cars I’m hearing about in this thread.

 

[Hooli]

If the OEM part is $2k, someone is definitely making knockoffs for far less.

AliExpress. :laughing

 

[GAJ]

I know right! I think my last bike (a Harley ironically enough) had way more tech than some of these cars I’m hearing about in this thread.

I will say there are a few options on my wife's CX5 that seemed silly at first but are actually quite nice.

The adaptive cruise control is very cool and the heated steering wheel I use every time I use the heated seats, (car even has heated seats in the rear) and the ventilated a/c in the front seats is "dayum, that's nice"!

Did a quick google and, evidently, an often stolen item I had not thought about was pickup truck tailgates if they are left unlocked.

 

[mrmarklin]

Basic cars are readily available, but you have to go to places like India or Brazil to buy them. :rofl