2021 Ford Bronco - shots fired

[buellistic]

The new trucks look taller but really aren’t. I have a stock 99 ram 2500 4X4 and a stock 2017 ram 1500 4x4. I can back them up to each other with tailgates down and tailgate height is dead level on them.[/QUOTE]

Tail gate standards have been 34 to36" for years.

 

[berth]

4x4 superduty next to 2WD F350. Definitely will be a height difference.

Contrast bottom of bumper to top of hood, there's a noticeable difference between the two.

The outer dimensions, overall height, width, and length, may not have changed much but the frontal area is more consumed by truck than before, even the bedsides seem taller.

 

[Ducky_Fresh]

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Did you post your order specs? While I want to place my order, I am really torn with their demonstration of each feature to have confidence in what I am buying, or NOT buying.

I initially had a wildtrak reservation, but now I'm thinking go down a version and add what I want.

I commute a fair amount, so I want a 2.7 with the auto and the auto drive 360 features.

Figured I would wait and see how they turn out. Get the 2nd wave. But hope it doesnt become so hard to get them then.

 

[ScottRNelson]

Did you post your order specs?

Not quite sure what you're asking here. I went over to my local dealer, went through the same online ordering steps that I was able to do from home, which apparently makes sure you're ordering compatible options. Then the dealer submitted the order to Ford - after I left them my deposit.

I ordered 2-door base with Sasquatch, which forces you to order the automatic transmission. Beyond that, I paid extra for Rapid Red Metallic, Floor Liners, Hard top sound deadening, roof rails, and keyless entry keypad. That's it.

 

[CDONA]

There is one point that I haven't seen yet about trucks getting larger.
My '02 Dodge has the low hood and small grill for aerodynamics with 16" wheels.
Wheel size has been enlarged to allow bigger brakes.
Maybe designers have scaled up body size to balance the wheel wells?

 

[ScottRNelson]

Maybe designers have scaled up body size to balance the wheel wells?

I think that might be the wackiest idea put forth in this thread yet. :laughing

 

[Lights_Guy3]

San Leandro Ford has 49 allotments for '21. Spent some time there on Monday and my order is confirmed. Not sure where I place in the list of 49, but I'm in. No more wait list for me! None of the options I chose are on the 'delayed' list so the dealer tells me to expect delivery in early July.

Originally was going with the Antimatter Blue, but after viewing it in person on a few F150s, it's basically black with a blue hue. Not a fan. The Area 51 looks way different than the online rendering also, but in person it's great.

Considered the Sasquatch package, but it looks a little comical to me and I for sure do not need the extra capability. I threw mud & snow tires on my base model jeep and over the years I've owned it, maybe only one time did I really want (not NEED) the extra farkles the Rubicon has to offer. The rest of the time I'm really happy I don't have something that is stupid overkill for commuting and my fairly infrequent trail exploring.


My build:
https://shop.ford.com/configure/bro...C.47B.60B.863.55G.D5HAB.85C.RET.53Q.EMT.99P.]

 

[Bubba_s]

I saw one on the road yesterday, it was WAY smaller than I expected. Very plain looking. It looked like a Jeep Renegade.

 

[wazzuFreddo]

I saw one on the road yesterday, it was WAY smaller than I expected. Very plain looking. It looked like a Jeep Renegade.

That was probably a Bronco Sport. I’ve seen a couple of those around.

 

[Lights_Guy3]

I saw one on the road yesterday, it was WAY smaller than I expected. Very plain looking. It looked like a Jeep Renegade.

Was it this one? This is the Sport.

 

[Killroy1999]

I think that might be the wackiest idea put forth in this thread yet. :laughing

Not that strange. :laughing

Back when I was designing the MPC 8X8 demonstrator suspension, there was a tire size trade study we needed to do between "huge" and "fucking huge". (I would have to look up the specs I dont remember).

Basically, there was not enough space in the wheel wells to have the suspension travel we wanted, so we went with the smaller tires as a compromise to mobility on soft soil. This is the heart of the Wheels vs Tracked debate. Interior volume is always important for armored vehicles, but more so for a vehicle that was design to be a boat on the ocean.

Then when they finally built the prototype. The tires 'looked too small' and the Nevada Automotive Test Center (cool place), so they mounted the "fucking huge" tires and limited the suspension travel. I would expect more rigor for the production design.

It did originally look like this with the smaller tires
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[Bubba_s]

That was probably a Bronco Sport. I’ve seen a couple of those around.

Was it this one? This is the Sport.

Yes, it must have been. I've been enjoying this thread and hoping to see one in the wild, totally underwhelming IMO. The pics all look so cool, the one I saw had tires that sat INSIDE of the wheel wells and was very low. It was like they sucked all of the cool out of it.

 

[augustiron]

I saw my first new bronco in the wild on 395 in reno yesterday.
I cant believe people are excited for that thing, it looked like something that would be sold by Kia.

 

[Map8]

Are you sure it wasn't the Bronco Sport?

The Sports have been for sale for a while now while the full size Broncos will not deliver to customers for a few more months.

 

[ScottRNelson]

I saw my first new bronco in the wild on 395 in reno yesterday.
I cant believe people are excited for that thing, it looked like something that would be sold by Kia.

There aren't any Broncos out yet. It had to be the much less desirable Bronco Sport. It's no different than half a dozen other small SUVs, including Kia.

 

[ScottRNelson]

This is the comparison of the two:

 

[augustiron]

Yup, it was the silly looking thing on the left.

Really bad marketing having the BRONCO badging all over it, full size on the grill and whatnot.

I wouldn't have paid any attention to it except for the huge BRONCO on the grill in my rearview.

 

[Mr Pepsi]

Better than the Escape it's built on IMO.

 

[Kornholio]

Better than the Escape it's built on IMO.

THIS...so much! :hail

 

[2nsane]

OK. stopped in at Ford and checked it out. NOPE ITS A PLASTIC POS. :thumbdown