High school renaming
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AbsolutEnduser
Throttle Pusher
The mayor of SF is not a white, guy, x2, and spoke against this at this hour of turbulent times. Perhaps you missed that.
Second, you miss that the worry is that the schools are actually closed. Same school council if it were actually happy to open them-together with teachers and the union, things would really look better, don't you think? NYC schools are open. They like them big apples : |
As for renaming any schools named Nazi-owner-Crow--sure, to ahead. Oh, renaming Lincoln? Probably the Fed Mint should take note!!!
Also the first school in this controversy had the name etched in a 3 x 8ft block of concrete
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Agent Orange
The b0y ninja
Not white, but I just wanted to point out at what point does cancel culture have a limit? I went to schools named Thomas Edison, Fernando Rivera and Marjorie H Tobias. Other than Thomas Edison, I dont know who those other 2 people are but are they going to find dirt on all 3 and cancel them as well?
Bubba_s
Pissant Squid #186
I've been hearing it called "Consequence culture" lately. Seems more apt.
gnahc79
Fear me!
IMO it's a good idea to get a context of when/why a school has a certain name. Kind of like the confederate statues that are all over the place
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments
Climber
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I'm sure there's a few that would be on board with this choice...
San Francisco school board considers renaming a school after the Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia
San Francisco school board considers renaming a school after the Grateful Dead's Jerry Garcia
Bay Arean
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They can call the Cafeteria the Shooting Gallery!
Eldritch
is insensitive
No, some of this shit is crazy. Unmerited attacks like this on national heroes like Washington and Lincoln are an attack on our very National Identity. In essence, it is an attack on our national pride, which is good grounds to be ruffled.
It is like those dummies promoting that stupid 1619 project. Just ignorant nonsense promoting a witchhunt agenda based in only the loosest and most biased spin on the truth.
Bay Arean
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I dunno. It's not the change so much for me as just the idea of purity testing demonstrably great figures in history. Changing Lincoln to me is just about the worst; Grant too. Both were responsible for the deaths of others, yet both fought enslavement in the most heroic of ways, with Lincoln losing his life for his actions. Jaysus. That ain't good enough for these SJWs????
We live in a society on their shoulders because of the things they did for good, no matter their faults. No one can withstand purity testing. No one. And its better to live in a society of honest acceptance of paradoxes of human nature than in some pretend world. These decisions are made in some self-perception that we are so much superior to so opine and judge. Just tell me again who made your smartphone and other devices and who is complicit in forced or near-slave labor on an ongoing basis.
But sure, just go whole hog and don't name em after anybody if this is the case. But if they decide to purity test geographical names, we won't get anything in English or Spanish, that's for sure. Maybe they will choose native tribal names. That would be cool I guess, though nobody knows for sure the provenance and circumstances regarding some of those names.
And the issue of haggling over this shit in the midst of not even holding school is not lost even on London Breed. We just got rid of one major wannabe dictator, but the alternative seems to be a bunch of petty tyrants, tone deaf to the rest of society, including those roughly in the same ideological modality. Both managed to be engrossed in their own obsessions despite suffering all about.
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Agent Orange
The b0y ninja
Holy shit, they actually managed to find something on Thomas Edison as well. :laughing
Fuck it, if the City wants to see itself burn. I dont even live there anyway..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...?pru=AAABd3TUK8I*nbMKgFTqzR475gjTWAOkog#gid=0
Leave it to me to think reading Heather's comment: What about people's last names? If anything is a multi generational tie back to the days of Slavery and in specific; ownership of other people, it's the last names we see pervading our American society. Remove the names on the schools and yet, people still have their last names. Is there any we're going to escape our shitty past or do those last names give us hope for what people can become in America?
Eldritch
is insensitive
Fucking hell, our past isn't even that shitty. Certainly far from perfect, the U.S. grew up as a child of trauma and has the mental scars as a society to prove that we are still working out, but humanity as a whole is pretty nasty. Relative to the Vikings, Aztecs, Romans, or Spaniards, we did pretty good all things told. For your further entertainment, here is a list of Aztec Holidays with their god of that holiday and type of sacrifice.
I Atlacacauallo (from February 2 to February 21) Tláloc, Chalchitlicue, Ehécatl Sacrifice of children and captives to the water deities
II Tlacaxipehualiztli (from February 22 to March 13) Xipe Tótec, Huitzilopochtli, Tequitzin-Mayáhuel Sacrifice of captives; gladiatorial fighters; dances of the priest wearing the skin of the flayed victims
III Tozoztontli (from March 14 to April 2) Coatlicue, Tlaloc, Chalchitlicue, Tona Type of sacrifice: extraction of the heart; burying of the flayed human skins; sacrifices of children
IV Hueytozoztli (from April 3 to April 22) Cintéotl, Chicomecacóatl, Tlaloc, Quetzalcoatl Sacrifice of a maid; of boy and girl
V Toxcatl (from April 23 to May 12) Tezcatlipoca, Huitzilopochtli, Tlacahuepan, Cuexcotzin Sacrifice of captives by extraction of the heart
VI Etzalcualiztli (from May 13 to June 1) Tláloc, Quetzalcoatl Sacrifice by drowning and extraction of the heart
VII Tecuilhuitontli (from June 2 to June 21) Huixtocihuatl, Xochipilli Sacrifice by extraction of the heart
VIII Hueytecuihutli (from June 22 to July 11) Xilonen, Quilaztli-Cihacóatl, Ehécatl, Chicomelcóatl Sacrifice of a decapitated woman and extraction of her heart
IX Tlaxochimaco (from July 12 to July 31) Huitzilopochtli, Tezcatlipoca, Mictlantecuhtli Sacrifice by starvation in a cave or temple
X Xocotlhuetzin (from August 1 to August 20) Xiuhtecuhtli, Ixcozauhqui, Otontecuhtli, Chiconquiáhitl, Cuahtlaxayauh, Coyolintáhuatl, Chalmecacíhuatl Sacrifices to the fire gods by burning the victims
XI Ochpaniztli (from August 21 to September 9) Toci, Teteoinan, Chimelcóatl-Chalchiuhcíhuatl, Atlatonin, Atlauhaco, Chiconquiáuitl, Cintéotl Sacrifice of a decapitated young woman to Toci; she was skinned and a young man wore her skin; sacrifice of captives by hurling from a height and extraction of the heart
XII Teoleco (from September 10 to September 29) Xochiquétzal Sacrifices by fire; extraction of the heart
XIII Tepeihuitl (from September 30 to October 19) Tláloc-Napatecuhtli, Matlalcueye, Xochitécatl, Mayáhuel, Milnáhuatl, Napatecuhtli, Chicomecóatl, Xochiquétzal Sacrifices of children, two noble women, extraction of the heart and flaying; ritual cannibalism
XIV Quecholli (from October 20 to November 8) Mixcóatl-Tlamatzincatl, Coatlicue, Izquitécatl, Yoztlamiyáhual, Huitznahuas Sacrifice by bludgeoning, decapitation and extraction of the heart
XV Panquetzaliztli (from November 9 to November 28) Huitzilopochtli Massive sacrifices of captives and slaves by extraction of the heart
XVI Atemoztli (from November 29 to December 18) Tlaloques Sacrifices of children and slaves by decapitation
XVII Tititl (from December 19 to January 7) Tona-Cozcamiauh, Ilamatecuhtli, Yacatecuhtli, Huitzilncuátec Sacrifice of a woman by extraction of the heart and decapitation afterwards
XVIII Izcalli (from January 8 to January 27) Ixozauhqui-Xiuhtecuhtli, Cihuatontli, Nancotlaceuhqui Sacrifices of victims representing Xiuhtecuhtli and their women (each four years), and captives; hour: night; New Fire
Nemontemi (from January 28 to February 1) Five ominous days at the end of the year, no ritual, general fasting
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bikewanker
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Dude you’ve got the the coolest calendars!
greenmonster
Well-known member
Let’s not forget that slavery has been around forever, and was just recently outlawed in some countries- Saudi Arabia in 1961, Mauritania in 1980. At least the Western world came to their senses about this long ago.
I’d also like to point out that the Islamic slave trade started before the Western slave trade and was just as big, if not bigger. Ever wonder why there are so few descendants of black slaves in the Islamic world? Because it was common practice to castrate the males and take the females as concubines, thereby diluting the blood line over many generations.
My point is that if we take a world view there are a lot of people who were much worse than Lincoln or Washington.
I’d also like to point out that the Islamic slave trade started before the Western slave trade and was just as big, if not bigger. Ever wonder why there are so few descendants of black slaves in the Islamic world? Because it was common practice to castrate the males and take the females as concubines, thereby diluting the blood line over many generations.
My point is that if we take a world view there are a lot of people who were much worse than Lincoln or Washington.
Post of the Month! I think we've found some good new names for these schools.
Good history. Let's also not forget the modern day slavery of our continent: sex slavery.
nbean16
The Art of Seduction
I don't know, I kind of feel like maybe we should stop assuming all minorites think alike and all white men think alike....cause they don't. Plenty of opinions all over the spectrum.
Eldritch
is insensitive
Thanks, as an American, I adopt the traditions of other peoples when I like their cultural practices.
