WTF is it with these gender reveal parties?

[Eldritch]

The fuck you talking about?

He's calling you out for your support of the ex-President, obvi.

:x

 

[scootergmc]

The fuck you talking about?

I don't know how to say it another way.

 

[TylerW]

I don't know how to say it another way.

Okay, but what you said makes zero sense to me. I want to understand you, but I cannot grok what you said.

To be clear, I want kids to be able to live happy, fulfilled lives living out identities that they've determined for themselves. I understand that some of these identities might make some folks uncomfortable in the collateral, but when the result is that they're happy and confident with who they are, isn't that worth it?

 

[Joshman]

To be clear, I want kids to be able to live happy, fulfilled lives living out identities that they've determined for themselves. I understand that some of these identities might make some folks uncomfortable in the collateral, but when the result is that they're happy and confident with who they are, isn't that worth it?

You're assuming that having all kids determine their identity later would be beneficial to all. The counter argument to your point is that divorcing sex from gender outright would cause damage to more people.

The issue people are dealing with now is one of stigma, not of norms. I prefer the idea of acceptance. If someone does not identify with their born sex, more power to them. If there were no stigma, then there would certainly be less hurt/trauma for trans people.

 

[stangmx13]

I feel bad for these parents that they were brainwashed by Hallmark, Pinterest, and whatever magazines to think they wanted to spend $$ on a party about their child's genitals.

 

[Matty D]

I'm not a breeder and can't relate to this stuff at all. Happy to celebrate a new arrival but the whole gender reveal stuff is seriously messed up. And when people die as a result? Tragedy when it's a guest and Darwinian when it's a host.

 

[mrzuzzo]

Okay, but what you said makes zero sense to me. I want to understand you, but I cannot grok what you said.

To be clear, I want kids to be able to live happy, fulfilled lives living out identities that they've determined for themselves. I understand that some of these identities might make some folks uncomfortable in the collateral, but when the result is that they're happy and confident with who they are, isn't that worth it?

Sorry but this makes zero sense to me.

Do you actually have small kids or is this a subjective opinion?

The minds of children just don't work this way. They learn and pick things up as they grow. One of these things is the understanding of their biological gender.

Later on, sure, they can identify as purple unicorns or whatever makes them happy but it's a pretty big ask to expect a small child or toddler to determine their own gender.

 

[GAJ]

We asked the Docs/techs not to reveal the gender of our now 35 year old daughter.

I guess that is now odd?

 

[TylerW]

Sorry but this makes zero sense to me.

Do you actually have small kids or is this a subjective opinion?

The minds of children just don't work this way. They learn and pick things up as they grow. One of these things is the understanding of their biological gender.

Later on, sure, they can identify as purple unicorns or whatever makes them happy but it's a pretty big ask to expect a small child or toddler to determine their own gender.

No one should be asking children to identify as anything - that's the point. Its holding space for them to explore their own identity on their own time. And its quite a bit easier to explore that identity when you don't have one impressed upon you from birth.

 

[dravnx]

We asked the Docs/techs not to reveal the gender of our now 35 year old daughter.

I guess that is now odd?

Not at all. My neighbors are due in a month. They don't know nor do they want to know the gender of their kid. I like that.

 

[GAJ]

Not at all. My neighbors are due in a month. They don't know nor do they want to know the gender of their kid. I like that.

In hindsight we'd do it again. :thumbup

 

[gixxerjeff]

I don't get any of this.
When we got our kids we simply went to the grocery store and wandered through the produce department. Boy babies were displayed on blue cabbage leaves and girl babies were displayed on pink cabbage leaves.
Y'all have made this too complicated.
(gazes longingly at the Norman Rockwell painting before telling local kids to get off the lawn)

 

[mrzuzzo]

No one should be asking children to identify as anything - that's the point. Its holding space for them to explore their own identity on their own time. And its quite a bit easier to explore that identity when you don't have one impressed upon you from birth.

Yeah good luck telling a toddler to "hold space". :laughing My boy would probably identify as a fire truck or something.

 

[auntiebling]

Yeah good telling a toddler to "hold space". :laughing My boy would probably identify as a fire truck or something.

at ~4 years old, my now 18 year old insisted on being called Dragon, because he was being a dragon for significant portions of the day. t-ball was hilarious but also painful because apparently dragons don't really hustle between bases (as much as any 4 year old understands hustling between bases)

 

[Eldritch]

at ~4 years old, my now 18 year old insisted on being called Dragon, because he was being a dragon for significant portions of the day. t-ball was hilarious but also painful because apparently dragons don't really hustle between bases (as much as any 4 year old understands hustling between bases)

Here are the Dragon Proouns for persons that self identify as Dragons.

https://yaypronouns.tumblr.com/post/75458555331/dra-drak-drakself-a-modified-dragon-theme-and

Please make sure you use the right Dragon pronouns for them and recognize their Dragon identity or you are a Nazi.

 

[TylerW]

Yeah good luck telling a toddler to "hold space". :laughing My boy would probably identify as a fire truck or something.

I feel like you're trying to turn this into something it isn't. It's literally just giving them the opportunity to explore their gender identity without impressing on them that they need to conform one way or other.

Its the same as letting them figure out what kind of work they would like to do instead of putting an expectation on them that they need to be a doctor or a lawyer.

 

[Eldritch]

I feel like you're trying to turn this into something it isn't. It's literally just giving them the opportunity to explore their gender identity without impressing on them that they need to conform one way or other.

Its the same as letting them figure out what kind of work they would like to do instead of putting an expectation on them that they need to be a doctor or a lawyer.

Yes, everyone who takes their kids to work in the family shop with the expectation that they will someday take over the family business is a fascist who should have their kids removed.


:laughing


There is absolutely ZERO wrong with raising your kids to be like you. You shouldn't be shitty to them if they don't play along, but raising your kids to be the person you want them to be is a fundamentally what the hell being a parent IS.

 

[tuxumino]

Avast ye scurvy dogs, no genders revealed but cannons were fired.


youtu.be/-T1lTV-mz3g

 

[Climber]

No one should be asking children to identify as anything - that's the point. Its holding space for them to explore their own identity on their own time. And its quite a bit easier to explore that identity when you don't have one impressed upon you from birth.

I think that you're fixating on this too much.

Who cares if they're a boy or a girl when they're born? Trying to say that we should wait to see what they turn out to be is getting too technical. They're kids, their parents are parents, let them have the parenthood and childhood and figure out things for themselves later.

 

[mikev]

There is absolutely ZERO wrong with raising your kids to be like you.

I disagree with that. I'm not raising my kids to be like me.

I'm raising my kids to be better than me.

You shouldn't be shitty to them if they don't play along, but raising your kids to be the person you want them to be is a fundamentally what the hell being a parent IS.

This part I agree with.