WTF is it with these gender reveal parties?

Eldritch

is insensitive
My parents were capable of imparting a sense moral values upon me without a ridgid dictum of the ideal person they expected me to be.

OK? That does not conflict with what I wrote. You are not responding to what I wrote, you are responing to the idea of in your head of what you think I meant.

Others have already responded to my post that they got what I meant and I have confirmed it. :dunno


Yeah, I mean, we learn and get values from the people that raised us. As we further grow and develop, that is further shaped by our life experiences, but our interaction with those life experiences is biased based on the foundations given by parents. How much you value telling the truth, how you react to emotional events like anger and sadness, what your approach is to work and self care. All of this is colored by parental interaction from the earliest stages of development.

I am sure there are some cases of highly absentee parents who offer no feedback on such things and very little observable interaction with their kids to color these things, but yes, that seems just weird to me, and I honestly think that it is counterintuitive to human nature.

I mean, those Insurance Commercials about "turning into your parents," are a thing because it is such a common stereotype of human behavior.
 
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Climber

Well-known member
With my kids, I laid down a solid foundation to support a perspective of human decency and striving for excellence as underlying support for the kind of people I wanted them to become.

I didn't tell them what they were supposed to be, but I did tell them the reasons for why they'd want to have character and principles guiding their decisions throughout their life and why it was important to be guided by those principles.
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
Well that's the whole problem with gender reveal parties is that it's the parents revealing the gender when they don't know the identity of their own child yet - because the child doesn't understand their own identity yet.

Ideally the child should decide what kind of identity reveal they want to have - if they want to have one at all. After, of course, they decide what gender they identify as.

If you're gonna do one, they should look something like this. They don't have to be enby, but it should be a celebration of the kid's own identity, not whatever identity the parents project onto them.

https://www.out.com/transgender/2020/7/17/mother-hosts-gender-reveal-17-year-old-nonbinary-child

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I mean, look at how goddamn happy that kid is.

Well, I mean, the kid WAS just freed from the box that imprisoned him...so there's that!

I'm not a breeder and can't relate to this stuff at all. Happy to celebrate a new arrival but the whole gender reveal stuff is seriously messed up. And when people die as a result? Tragedy when it's a guest and Darwinian when it's a host.

I say let the celebrations continue!!! It is natures way of population control. And if there is ever a time to control population, it is when we are adding to it.

We asked the Docs/techs not to reveal the gender of our now 35 year old daughter.

I guess that is now odd?

Have you figured it out yet?
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
Yeah good luck telling a toddler to "hold space". :laughing My boy would probably identify as a fire truck or something.

When my brother was a toddler, he wanted to be a fireman, a policeman, or a baby duck when he grew up.

He became an artisty type person...so I'm thinking closer to a baby duck. :p

Anyone ever see the one where some bro put pink confetti down the pipe of his 450 and then held it wide to bounce it off the limiter to reveal the gender out the exhaust pipe. Ha. Ridiculous.

As a parent of four I was very interested to know their gender ASAP. Was dying to know everything about them. Any piece of information I could gather was interesting. Was dying to see what they looked like too. For me it was just part of my interest in them, on all levels.

Yeah, same here. Especially with the first one.
 

GAJ

Well-known member
Have you figured it out yet?

Well my daughter has a sweatshirt that says "Feminist as Fuck" on the front of it so I'm pretty sure I know where she is coming from!

At her Wedding that she planned from A to Z in 2019 I was informed before hand that I would not be walking her down the aisle to "give her away" as she was nobody's property.

I had zero issues with that. :laughing
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
With my kids, I laid down a solid foundation to support a perspective of human decency and striving for excellence as underlying support for the kind of people I wanted them to become.

I didn't tell them what they were supposed to be, but I did tell them the reasons for why they'd want to have character and principles guiding their decisions throughout their life and why it was important to be guided by those principles.

Sounds legit. I hope your genespawn become exactly the type of persons you want them to be.

:thumbup
 

kevin 714

Well-known member
The idea that neither of you had any values taught to you by your fathers is utterly bizarre to me.

How on earth you ever figured out any sort of sense of moral responsibility must be a weird story.

teach by example, not direction. my dad simply was a person id like to be like. its perhaps the least bizarre thing ever.

I have not a single complaint about my upbringing, nor a single negative memory of my father. not one. I cant think of a single thing I wish my parents did differently, no matter how miniscule or trivial.

I mean, isn't that what your statement I was responding to indicated?

If you are not taught values from your parents, I'm not sure where they come from.

you can be implicitly taught as opposed to explcititly taught. that being said, my post was more about telling somneone the way they should be in the more tangible ways, like job, educationbm life path, things like that. obviouslyt my dad talked about being a good person and stuff, but it was never truly regimented and explicit in its direction.
 
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wazzuFreddo

WuTang is 4 the children
What I was most interested in was hearing my kids speak. They are interesting people and I wanted to know what was on their mind.

I have fun talking with them.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
teach by example, not direction. my dad simply was a person id like to be like. its perhaps the least bizarre thing ever.

I have not a single complaint about my upbringing, nor a single negative memory of my father. not one. I cant think of a single thing I wish my parents did differently, no matter how miniscule or trivial.

you can be implicitly taught as opposed to explcititly taught. that being said, my post was more about telling somneone the way they should be in the more tangible ways, like job, educationbm life path, things like that. obviouslyt my dad talked about being a good person and stuff, but it was never truly regimented and explicit in its direction.

It sounds like we agree then, except I find no fault with using direction.

:dunno

What I was most interested in was hearing my kids speak. They are interesting people and I wanted to know what was on their mind.

I have fun talking with them.

I get that. I don't have kids, but it is hard for me to express how uninterested I am in babies. Once kids can talk, they are super fun and interesting though. I have a lot of fun being the funny Uncle to many of my friends kids.
 
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Climber

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Sounds legit. I hope your genespawn become exactly the type of persons you want them to be.

:thumbup
So far so good, in terms of their values and character.

I didn't try to define their personalities, just give them an underlying foundation on the type of person they would turn out to be and let their personalities define how they expressed themselves.

I've witnessed some parents who try to clone themselves, it often doesn't really work out the way they planned and, of course, the law of unintended consequences comes into play. :laughing
 
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DefyInertia

Original Saratogian
The best is when they tell you about their moto stories! Did you see me hit that jump , dad??? Did you see me crash back there??? Haha
 

GAJ

Well-known member
I think the gender reveal deaths are still way behind the "selfie on a cliff" deaths though.
 
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