Track skills vs Street skills

[Eldritch]

I have seen the light..........I repent........oh, oh great Prophets of the Track, please forgive me, for I have sinned. I have learned to be a real good street rider without being on the track first. I see the error of my way now.

To all those that have not been on the track and still street ride, stop now. You don't know what you are doing. Go get some track time so you can say you know how to ride. Listen to the Prophets of the Track for they are all knowing beings.

Also forgive me for not realizing that what is meant by the street riding is riding in the twisties. That the true measure of a street rider is lying darkies out of a turn or squaring off a corner.

How could I have been blinded for so many years. The 100,000 plus miles under my belt street riding truely mean nothing compared to the miles one can rack up track riding.

Best post evarrrrrrrrr....


:laughing

 

[J-]

For once, I agree. Truck drivers have nothing on Dale Jr...

:laughing :laughing


OTRW get down to yer knees and.......say 10 hail Father J's and maybe....maybe you'll be forgiven

 

[Alexey]

lastly, i tried to convey this message to the guys who have not been on track, and who think they are hotshit.. but it's like reading a scripture to a cow.. so i gave up.

Great post, man! Speaking of trying to open people's minds, I had a guy deliver food to our house the other day and we got to talking about bikes. He was trying to tell me how fast he was on his ZX6R and how he's seen 175 on the street and how he runs from cops all the time -- :loser The worst thing was, he apparently knows somebody who races. I told him I race my F4i and that he'd really enjoy the track. Of course, a barrage of excuses followed, my favorites being "I'm scared I'll crash" and "I don't have full leathers". I told him the usual things about track being safer for learning and pushing the limits and how he'd enjoy it a hell of a lot more, but I think it just went over his head. I hope not.

 

[Robert R1]

I have seen the light..........I repent........oh, oh great Prophets of the Track, please forgive me, for I have sinned. I have learned to be a real good street rider without being on the track first. I see the error of my way now.

To all those that have not been on the track and still street ride, stop now. You don't know what you are doing. Go get some track time so you can say you know how to ride. Listen to the Prophets of the Track for they are all knowing beings.

Also forgive me for not realizing that what is meant by the street riding is riding in the twisties. That the true measure of a street rider is lying darkies out of a turn or squaring off a corner.

How could I have been blinded for so many years. The 100,000 plus miles under my belt street riding truely mean nothing compared to the miles one can rack up track riding.

I still wanna know how one gets through the sears esses, bwillow esses and the turn 3 complex without turning their bike fast, at a race pace.........

 

[J-]

My opinion ( if one from an 'unflushable turd" counts):jaded.
Track riding is a big plus.

I love riding on the track and also love riding on the street.
Track riding has helped me immensely on the street.
Especially when it comes to confidence in the bike and tires.
It just really made me more cautious(slow down) on the street (repost)
As if I'm fast at the track.....:cry


J-

 

[V4]

mofo's need to end this thread and set up that ride....

people can bash/rant/flame/act a fool all they want on the internet but when we all meet, our opinions might be the same but the views of the person may be more better....


MrCrash...when we riding...?

 

[dog_butter]

dog_butter,
I have a lot or respect for you from some of the great posts you did on the old days on cbrworld. :thumbup on this one, too.

yah, thanks.

those were the days when i really wanted to help other riders..

i remember when i used to organize group rides, how often we had crashes.

now days, i just want to be entertained.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

mofo's need to end this thread and set up that ride....

people can bash/rant/flame/act a fool all they want on the internet but when we all meet, our opinions might be the same but the views of the person may be more better....


MrCrash...when we riding...?

:thumbup.

 

[doubleottcrash]

The 100,000 plus miles under my belt street riding truely mean nothing compared to the miles one can rack up track riding.





retarded!

 

[Holeshot]

Simple. At a slow street pace.

While looking for oil/gravel/flying possums...(or "knowing" where those things will be).

 

[}Dragon{]

mofo's need to end this thread and set up that ride....

people can bash/rant/flame/act a fool all they want on the internet but when we all meet, our opinions might be the same but the views of the person may be more better....


MrCrash...when we riding...?

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Let's ride!

Does doing hot laps in the Ranch99 parking lot prepare you for the track?

(John- do u still ride?)

 

[}Dragon{]

While looking for oil/gravel/flying possums...(or "knowing" where those things will be).

Wombats... get it right.

 

[Wrong Way]

retarded!

I really don't care what excuses you have

 

[roadhazard]

wrong way

your so cool.

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

wrong way

your so cool.

Isn't he though:laughing :laughing

Mario is my idol I hang pictures of him up in my garage almost like itty bitty shrines....:cry

:laughing :laughing :laughing

 

[}Dragon{]

Isn't he though:laughing :laughing

Mario is my idol I hang pictures of him up in my garage almost like itty bitty shrines....:cry

:laughing :laughing :laughing

So that's why the floor is so sticky in your garage...

 

[*VillageIdiot*]

So that's why the floor is so sticky in your garage...

you thought it was the dogs didn't you.:laughing

 

[MrCrash]

I'm still confused. I drive a car. Does that mean I have street skills? I still have most of the same issues...deer, traffic patterns, etc. Am I on the right track here?

I think so. But at the same time, I think I'm also more aware of them because I've spent a lot of time in traffic on a motorcycle.

Mike, I think the whole point of this thread was the idea that learning how to control one's bike better in a closed enviroment (the track) aids in having increased control and safety on the street.

Again, I agree. This doesn't mean I think it's the only way to improve your control. By no means am I insinuating that "if you never do a trackday, you're always going to suck as a street rider".

here's a question: why the resentement towards guys who are trying to help others?

I think we're all pretty passionate about the sport. If someone tells me I'm wrong about something I'm passionate about, there's a good chance it'll get under my skin.

For example, you could tell me I'm a poor swimmer, and I wouldn't really care. I'm not that passionate about it, and I haven't been doing it that long.

Now if I was a father and you told me my parenting skills were shit - I'm going to get pretty bent.

I'd be in for SLO county , lived a stones throw from 58 for a long time.

If we head to SLO, it's going to be an overnighter.

so what am i saying? do some trackdays.. it will change things for you.

Good stuff - especially here in the Bay Area, where riders have all kinds of excellent, affordable instruction available to them. The level and quality of instruction available at each of the "Big 3" tracktime providers rivals that of the more well-known national schools that over twice as much.

It only makes sense to take advantage of that.

I have seen the light..........I repent........oh, oh great Prophets of the Track, please forgive me, for I have sinned.

And you say I'm the one with the attitude...

 

[ontherearwheel]

I've seen a few people post about how they believe track skills don't apply to street situations. If you're of this opinion, can you elaborate?

My stance: The control that a racer develops on the track is directly applicable to the street. Due to their experience at speed, racers will able to stop harder and turn faster than their street counterparts, giving them more options when situations arise.

Experienced racers also have a better feel for traction under different conditions, as well as the ability to recover from situations where traction is lost.

There's a reason racers are often slower than experienced street riders on public roads. They take into account the possibility of surface conditions around blind corners. They know that they're pretty much helpless if they split beyond a certain speed in traffic.

Opinions?

Is it a situational awareness deal? Street strategies? Do you think those really things that a racer's awareness and ability won't make up for?

You asked for opinions and you got mine. The personal digs were uncalled for and really had no bearing on the thread. The digs you started.

Digs against someone you don't even know. To base your opinion of me and how I ride or what I have done on just race results is very closed minded.

You and others attacked me and not what I wrote. I sure sign of those that suffer from SDS(Small Dick Sysdrome).

Next time you ask for opinions, be a real man and attack the opinion and not the person.

The End

 

[Holeshot]

"I have seen the light..........I repent........oh, oh great Prophets of the Track, please forgive me, for I have sinned. I have learned to be a real good street rider without being on the track first. I see the error of my way now.

To all those that have not been on the track and still street ride, stop now. You don't know what you are doing. Go get some track time so you can say you know how to ride. Listen to the Prophets of the Track for they are all knowing beings."

OTRW, your quote above. Small dick syndrome? Just keeping track of this thread's history.