Perspective on FAST street riding

[Z3n]

Refering to me in reference to what exactly there Bubba?
Because I had the temerity to say something within this
thread that's the truth whether the likes of *you* agrees
with it or not?

Lets look at this , a guys made a decision that he
should be applauded for and subsequent to that a
whole slew of heel-nippers decide to do their pile-on
act.

And the fact remains as I stated , a goodly portion
of those sniveling at the OP within this thread
couldn't even keep him in sight on a WING , going
at a MILD pace.

So what's *YOUR* beef there BigMan and why bother
to bring me into it? Don't like what I say?The I cordially
invite you to skip my posts.




B.

:shhh He was agreeing with you...not disputing you...:laughing

 

[ob1ventura]

Refering to me in reference to what exactly there Bubba?

:wow Holly phucking smokes there Big Man, put down the pipe and focus.

I thought YOUR post re:The vast majority was right on and made me LMAO.

And I will agree w/ YOUR damn post weather YOU like it or not Bubba

 

[}Dragon{]

:rofl Bubba :toothless

YOUR damn post wHether YOU like it or not Bubba

The weather should be nice in the AM- let's all go ride! :laughing

 

[Choppa650]

I enjoyed this thread. Knowing your limits, and what is best for you takes strength, and laying all of this out on a public forum takes a big pair. I am sorry people are bashing you for knowing what is best for you, and the unnecessary alcoholic, and underage hookers thing is rediculous. Kudos to you.:thumbup

 

[corndog]

Hilarious! Both threads are at an even six pages, and look at the difference in replies, lmao!

For some reason, certain folks took the original post as preaching. I see it as a good story of how someone dealt with a problem. Win for the OP, and win for SBR.

 

[Zed10R]

Crashing is a fact, acceptable or not.


ps. I'm 33 yrs old and plan to continue hauling ass for the rest of my life.

You guys are still a bunch of pussies! :laughing

PUSSIES!

I agree with all the pussies who say "take it to the track". I've realized the profound selfishness and unnessesary risk in making the back roads my own personal race track. You have not. You hear the truth being spoken by people who know, and your response makes it clear that you don't understand. Maybe you never will. That's really is ok. We all learn what we need to learn, when we need to learn it.

Since you are 33 years old and still not able to fully comprehend the cosequences of your actions, I feel there is no harm in presenting you with this, in advance: :rose

Enjoy your ride...

 

[plumber]

I always thought of fast as on the ragged edge. You really don't know where that edge is until you step over it. You step over it enough and you'll eventually crash. You crash enough and eventually you'll hit something hard enough to make a difference. \

"A man has to know his limitations." Dirty Harry

 

[Zed10R]

I always thought of fast as on the ragged edge.

I believe that is the definition of fast, when applied to public roads. You can never count on the road being clean clear. Therefore...if you ride "fast" on the street, you are always on the ragged edge, due to conditions out of your control. :thumbup

 

[Diezel]

Since you are 33 years old and still not able to fully comprehend the cosequences of your actions, I feel there is no harm in presenting you with this, in advance: :rose

Enjoy your ride...

Agree'd.

You know I have learned one thing, this guy hasn't.

The difference from riding FAST on the street and track.


@ the track, there's an ambulance and EMT's minutes away. In the back roads, the could be an HOUR away.

Now realize, in some cases death is mere minutes away.

Ride as you choose. :thumbup

 

[Starshooter10]

MAD props to him...

this is one of the reason i dont own a liter bike...

i know im already stupid out of controll on a 500...

give me a bike that is 50lbs less and has 2 or 3x the power....

this is why the biggest bike i will buy (for many years... untill [if ever] i slow down)

so when people ask why i dont get a bigger bike....

because i can already keepup or pass most people in the twisties...

i can wheelie (yet to master BP though)

and i can already do well over 100 and get there QUICK

 

[Coffae]

Hmmm... Can we sticky a thread on SBR?


I read this last year with tears in my eyes. Mr. Haas is a wonderful writer!

 

[I'm OaklandLion]

Mr Haas, SP2, great read and thanks for sharing. It makes me think about my own riding, which I think was your intent.

As for some of you schmucks, I can't believe the lack of respect. Extremely judgemental. Be nice. I know it's hard (it can be for me), but I'm trying.

As for why I read 1Rider and Training and Crash Analysis.......

because I don't want to FUCKING DIE!

Seriously.

 

[Burning1]

Do you know how much "spirited" street riding I can do for the price of a "trackday"?

As soon as trackdays cost 35 bucks I'll be there........but then so will every other dipshit. Keep it real ya pussies!:laughing

You really need to consider the big picture when it comes to street riding.

Last year, I was fortunate enough to commute from Boulder Creek to San Bruno via Highway 9, 35, and 92. I also managed to accumulate 5 citations for various driving offenses. I calculate that for the price of my legal fees, wasted time, and increased insurance premiums, I could have attended a track day per month for the entire year.

If you've never been on the track... If you've never had a moment of your life where everything has been absolutely perfect, or if you've never been relaxed, in the moment, and without a care in the world, you might not understand what I'm about to say next:

The most memorable experience in my life was on a race track. The only thing better is falling in love.

 

[Burning1]

So for my first trip I went to Metcalf with a friend and two "squids". These guys have only been riding dirt for a couple of months. They're obviously pretty much ahead of me on the learning curve when it came to riding dirt. These guys ride like they have nothing to lose and it truly shows. At first I was admiring them because of their balls but my friend was quick to point out the difference between talent and stupidity. He kept telling me to ride my own ride and keep my ego in check.

I believe that the difference between true and false confidence is the way a person understands what can go wrong. It's the difference between the analytical understanding of risks learned in the MSF course, and the visceral experience of sliding through gravel, being thrown from a bike, or staying in the hospital.

True confidence means having a belief at a deep level that the worst is waiting in the cards. It's understanding that one of the chambers contains a bullet. I believe that the difference between a truly confident rider and a cocky rider is that the confident rider has the experience to know where the dangers are lurking, and the wisdom not to pull the trigger when the round is lined up with the barrel and the hammer is cocked.

From what I've seen, it takes a lot of confidence to ride at the limits of ones ability. But a person with real confidence can grow through his experiences in the saddle, where a person with false confidence has some hard learning about limits in store for the future.

 

[DefyInertia]

Glad this thread came back up as I had been meaning to search for it.

The most import thing to consider when riding on the street is the OTHER PEOPLE you share the road with, period.

 

[Z3n]

You really need to consider the big picture when it comes to street riding.

The difference between the cost of trackdays and the cost of street riding is that you pay it forward for trackdays, and you pay it afterwards for street riding. :laughing

(Btw this thread is like 2 years old. :laughing )

 

[Warrior Princess]

I have an old 81 XS650 with 23,000 miles and sometimes I get it up to 120mph and I think about it. However I am in a safe place when I do it. Most of the time I am at 70-80 on the freeway and being safe when I do it. I think a lot about hitting the pavement. I think about the condition of the bike. I do know the mechanics of the bike and it is safe, but taking a 25mph corner at 60 sometimes is scary. I sometimes think I want to ride with the slow ones and wait until I build up my tracker.

But one thing for sure I am always thinking about what I am doing and I never let myself go to far. My bike could do 70+ around the 25MPH corner but that is stupid. I just let the others go by and wait for my time to do it.

 

[Jimbo007]

He's kinda got me thinking about ditching the Ducati. I can't believe it.

 

[RidersLife]

I very much like this story. Thanks for sharing. I never had a mentor when it came to riding, wish I did. This story kind of felt like mentoring. I thank your wife, friends and you

 

[CBRMike83]

In my opinion, this is a really awesome writeup about aggressive riding on the street....

http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39630

+1:thumbup