Perspective on FAST street riding

kiltwearinfool

do not read this title
TTTom said:
it's like they're not sure what they're most proud of... what wonderful sinners they were before or what wonderful saints they are now.

It's an attempt to relate one's own experiences to someone else, for the purpose of showing that change is possible if it's wanted.

SP2 made the right decision for him. He's trying to tell others it is possible. Give him a thanks and a pat on the back, or ignore him. Don't kick him in the nuts for trying to make a difference.



Me? I stole money from grandma to pay prostitues hopped up on pain meds to blow cub scouts. But everyone's experience is different. Finding a way to have your experience be something other people can relate to is the challenge.
 

JMack

Well-known member
Wow great read, SP2!!

Lots of nuggets in there from the OP and the rest of the gallery.

Kinda hit me at the right time too since I just had a very sketchy situation that happened to me on , of all places and things , a dirt bike.

Some of you may have known that I recently accquired a dirtbike after a great experience at the American Supercamp.

So for my first trip I went to Metcalf with a friend and two "squids". These guys have only been riding dirt for a couple of months. They're obviously pretty much ahead of me on the learning curve when it came to riding dirt. These guys ride like they have nothing to lose and it truly shows. At first I was admiring them because of their balls but my friend was quick to point out the difference between talent and stupidity. He kept telling me to ride my own ride and keep my ego in check.

A couple of things I found out while riding a dirtbike, #1. it's not a street bike and #2 it's not a streetbike. I found myself in situations where I knew I was in over my head, steep hills and the motocross track come to mind. I was doing relatively fine but I probably shouldn't have been riding as aggresively as I was. More so cuz I didn't know jack shit about my bike yet and I didn't know jack shit about riding in the dirt. I had more oh shit moments in Metcalf that day than I ever did in all of my combined street and track riding on my supersport. I managed to stay alive and injury free that day though and had a ton of fun. It's only dirt , right? Very Reckless indeed.

Fast Forward one week later and we were out at Angels camp with the same friend and the same two squids. We got there at 8am and were on the trails at 8:30. The day went on with the 2 squids doing crazy shit and with me trying to go mano a squid. I noticed that my friend , who's had 30+ years of experience, kept to his own pace and joined in very selectively to our continued shenanigans. As a result I must have fallen off my bike a good 4-5 times. No injuries , just wounded pride.

Towards the end of the day we came up to this rock quarry that was blocked off by big ass boulders. The squids proceeded to hump their bikes over the boulders and so of course Mr. CANNOT BE OUTDONE, had to follow. We proceeded to ride like asses and pulled wheelies and did donuts. Someone had a bright idea to do a little drag racing. Oh cool, let's do it. We did 3-4 little drag races and on the last one of the day, I was feeling tired at this point, we lined up with me being on the farthest left. 1,2,3 GO!!!

The squid on my right (Mike) gets a holeshot on me and left a big cloud of dust in my pathway...It was a good secod or two til I got a clear vision of what was in front of me, as my view cleared the first thing I saw was Mike almost directly in front of me stopping very, very abruptly and veering left to my path. I was going to TBONE the bastard going at least 30-40 miles an hour!! My next reaction was to slam on the brakes and veer right , I barely cleared him , clipped his right side with my left handlebar and the next thing I know , I was off the bike and landing on my ass, sliding towards a big ass rock sticking out from the ground. I managed to roll but I still hit the rock with my chest and knocked the wind out of me.

Immediately , I felt excruciating pain on my right hip and my tailbone, I was sure I broke something. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!! As I lay there on my back , the only thing I can think off is my wife and how she is going to freak the fuck out because her worst fears will have been realized. The next thing I thought about was the helicopter ride and the agonizing wait for it because we were out in the middle of Deliverance Country. The first thing I did was count to 10 and move my toes, cool it's wiggling. I moved my fingers , check! Got a feeling of my neck. I got my camelback hose and sucked some cold water and that refreshed me more than anything in my life. Long story short I was able to get back up on my feet after getting my breathing back to normal after 10 minutes of just laying there. After taking inventory of my body I was convinced I didn't break anything. And oh yeah, the CRF230F , fired right back up! Awesome bike BTW! I was able to ride it back to our rallypoint but my tailbone and hips were sore as hell. Every bump was excruciating.

Mike, BTW,didn't even fall off his bike even after I clipped him, he was completely stopped at that point and didn't even see me almost split his body in half. He was truly apologetic. I asked him why he made such an abrupt stuff. His reason: He saw some broken glass and didn't want to go over it :rolleyes. Mind you the quarry was filled with broken glass and other shit that we've been rolling through the whole time . Another story for another day then.

I rode like an ass that day and I paid for it. I target fixated among other things and rode way over my skill level because it was only dirt!! My ego got the better off me and I paid for it. I could've killed this guy or I could have been paralyzed had I hit that rock with my head or my spine . I realized that the biggest squid that day was ME! The whole day was leading to a big cluster fuck and it's fortunate that it only cost me a sore hip, bruised tailbone, a gearshifter and a handle bar. It could've been much, much worse and it all could've been avoided.

However, I will never forget laying there looking up to blue skies, knowing I broke something major, and thinking that my wife will have to look after me , an invalid dumbshit squid. Man, I never want her to go through that and knowing my wife, she will take care of me for the duration. That's just not right.
 
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Jrose

Well-known member
Texwasabi said:
You have always been a worthless piece of shit RS Rider, effing always.


Thank you for posting such a perfect reply to RS rider. After reading his reply I wanted to step on his throat, over and over again...

Thank You sp2 racer for a great post and potentially life saving advice.

I commute into San Francisco every day and sometimes on the ride home my speeds get out of control.

And yes RS rider, you are a piece of shit..
 

kabazauls

Well-known member
OMG!! I had no idea motorbikes were SOOOOOOOO dangerous. What was I thinking! I better sell these death machines and take up knitting while I still can.

Maybe that's what you blousers would like to hear. :twofinger



Everyone who rides a moto knows it's dangerous or finds out soon enough. Why do some people feel the need to act like they're the ONLY ones who TRULY understand the meaning of personal responsibility in a "street" environment?

You guys just assume we're all pissing ourselves over the thought of death like you are. I'll bet many of us are too busy enjoying life to be bothered by such nonsense.

Enjoy the track at your own leisure but don't try to take "sport" riding away from the rest of us.

:deadhorse
 

glenizen

Well-known member
SP2 Racer said:
Funny how afraid we can be to scare our wifes, man I am so whipped

Dude, don't worry about it - you've got your priorities right.

Thanks for the great posts and being honest - it's a splendid rarity that makes spending time on this forum worthwhile.

Cheers.
 

}Dragon{

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I read thru the first two pages here and the OP on SBR.

I used to ride like an idiot (read: stupid fast) and I've slowed way down.

Also, I'm a single f/t Dad- if I get hurt or die- my son is screwed.:| This makes my #1 priority to get home with all my parts on me and the bike.

I ride fast enough to have fun and to have a smile on my face. I can do that on a 250 and I can do it on a litre.

As long as at the end of the ride I look like this: :teeth- It's all good.

"The older I get the faster I was" :laughing
 

kabazauls

Well-known member
Holeshot said:
Can you guys just read the guys life experience and relish in your own luck?

Relishing in your luck is a waste of time and will probably just bring you bad luck.

Here's my life story:

I ride fast!
I ride faster!
I crash!
I crash harder!
I live!
I live harder and faster!
Repeat.

Isn't that way better than the other guys story.


:applause
 

}Dragon{

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kabazauls said:
Relishing in your luck is a waste of time and will probably just bring you bad luck.

Here's my life story:

I ride fast!
I ride faster!
I crash!
I crash harder!
I live!
I live harder and faster!
Repeat.

Isn't that way better than the other guys story.


:applause

Live fast- die young?

:rose

I live too: But I ain't trying to kill myself and crashing is not acceptable on the street.
 
kabazauls said:
Relishing in your luck is a waste of time and will probably just bring you bad luck.

Here's my life story:

I ride fast!
I ride faster!
I crash!
I crash harder!
I live!
I live harder and faster!
Repeat.

Isn't that way better than the other guys story.

:applause

You must be very young.
You must not have anyone who loves you or depends on you.
I don't need to point out the lacking mental acuity.

I just hope your youthful exuberance doesn't take out some innocent in one of your "repeat" crashes.

And no... it's no where near "the other guys story".
It only shows your infallible immaturity.
THE true oxymoron.
 

V4

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE
kabazauls said:
Relishing in your luck is a waste of time and will probably just bring you bad luck.

Here's my life story:

I ride fast!
I ride faster!
I crash!
I crash harder!
I live!
I live harder and faster!
Repeat.

Isn't that way better than the other guys story.


:applause

:rip
 

Daredevil

Modest Max
i've noticed a few people bag on my comment about staying single


heyzues it was a JOKE. i completely agree with the thread starter (From the other forum to be exact)

lol, people get their panties in such a twist so quickly
 

Go2Trackdays

No speed limits or cars!
Hey Daredevil, I thought your comment was pretty funny... :p

The high speed adrenaline rush is definitely an addiction for me... and the more I get used to higher speeds, the faster I need to go to get my fix. So going to the track every so often is a good thing, except when funds are low, like they are for me right now.

I think NOT having enough low-cost trackdays is like kids without a skatepark or somewhere to expend their energy, so they just do what they can in public places.

Reading stories like Robert's helps keep me thinking about the risk/reward ratio and hopefully it might be helpful for other riders out there.
 
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JMack

Well-known member
kabazauls said:
OMG!! I had no idea motorbikes were SOOOOOOOO dangerous. What was I thinking! I better sell these death machines and take up knitting while I still can.

Wow, what a badass :applause

The force is strong with this one:hand
 

kabazauls

Well-known member
}Dragon{ said:




I live too: But I ain't trying to kill myself and crashing is not acceptable on the street.

Crashing is a fact, acceptable or not.


ps. I'm 33 yrs old and plan to continue hauling ass for the rest of my life.

You guys are still a bunch of pussies! :laughing

PUSSIES!
 

TrackCrafter

TrackCrafter
kabazauls said:
Crashing is a fact, acceptable or not.


ps. I'm 33 yrs old and plan to continue hauling ass for the rest of my life.

You guys are still a bunch of pussies! :laughing

PUSSIES!

Well I guess I am a pussy, if that what it means to just take responsability for MY OWN actions. I never told you to slow down, ride different. Hell I could really give a rats ass what happens to you.

You and your type are always going to be able to act like you do and then call anyone that choose to do things different from you childish names.

The thing is, at the ripe old age of 33 you are still just a kid, you have no way of accepting that other people may, just may have figured things out that you have not. That is just fine, hopefully you enjoy a full and long life of crashes and adventures. As that seems to be what you identify yourself with.

Selfish, childish people like yourself are an important part of the motorcycle community, you set a benchmark for the rest of the world to use when measuring ones own level of risky behavior.

You Tube needs all the Heros like you as possible

:laughing

Uh by the way sport, the next time you wad ass, (And you will) Would you do the world a favor and start wearing a diaper under your blue jeans and tee shirt riding gear, that way the poor EMT's do not have to deal with your empty bowels as they scrape you off the side of the road
 
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ob1ventura

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Thanks for posting SP2 racer. I read your comments in the other forum and you got me thinking about this issue again.

I'm not ready to give up the ZX10 yet, but I have taken it down a notch and allow more room for surprises on the back roads. One can negotiate thousands of turns flawlessly then get bit by the big ass redwood due to one brain fart. The Kawi brings out the competitor in me; not only w/ other bikes, but w/ myself. It is by far the most fun when ridden aggresively and that is how it is ridden. That is what it was designed for after all.

I have had to admit that when we have family that depend on us, there is a point somewhere when taking additional risks is just selfish.

I am less tempted w/ my other (tamer) bike. I can still enjoy a spirited ride but i'm just less tempted to push the envelope.

FWIW, 4 of my riding friends who are respected riders have picked up wings over the last few years and enjoy the hell out of them.
 
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