Perspective on FAST street riding

com3

highside surprise!
ob1ventura said:
Thanks for posting SP2 racer. I read your comments in the other forum and you got me thinking about this issue again.

I'm not ready to give up the ZX10 yet, but I have taken it down a notch and allow more room for surprises on the back roads. One can negotiate thousands of turns flawlessly then get bit by the big ass redwood due to one brain fart. The Kawi brings out the competitor in me; not only w/ other bikes, but w/ myself. It is by far the most fun when ridden aggresively and that is how it is ridden. That is what it was designed for after all.

I have had to admit that when we have family that depend on us, there is a point somewhere when taking additional risks is just selfish.

I am less tempted w/ my other (tamer) bike. I can still enjoy a spirited ride but i'm just less tempted to push the envelope.

FWIW, 4 of my riding friends who are respected riders have picked up wings over the last few years and enjoy the hell out of them.


:thumbup great post.
 

faz

Sexiest Ex-Mod around!™
For what it is worth, I bought my Sofa-cycle as an attempt to reduce the possibility of acting stupid on 101 during rush hour traffic. Commuting to work on my CBR, I found myself splitting too fast and simply too comfortable at taking chances that I would regularly not take. The 1983 Venture has helped with that a lot... I do take it easy and relax, and not try to squeeze in between tight spots and/or split at higher speed differentials.
 

TTTom

Well-known member
SP2 Racer said:
TTTom I would never dream of offering advice to a person with diverse knowledge of such manners as Geriactic Pain control,Boy scout finances and Juvenile prostitution.

I have no example worth sharing with you. Have a wonderful life, it seems you are on the right path

Hey kid, don't get me wrong.... I applaud your decision to stop riding like a squid on public roads and I hope you can stick with it.
 

}Dragon{

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kabazauls said:
ps. I'm 33 yrs old and plan to continue hauling ass for the rest of my life.


So where could you put number plates on this baby?

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Bluenote

Well-known member
SP2 Racer said:
Well thanks for that, I am still on the street. In fact probably on some of the same roads you use, hope I can stay out of your way:dunno :dunno



The vast majority of those yapping at you doing their
best Chihuahua behind a fence imitation couldn't even
keep you in sight on your 'Wing , so the hell with 'em.






B.
 

mlm

Contrarian
Obviously I've landed on the wrong side of the BARF clique.

I read a thread about some guy on another site, who I don't know, who there is no indication anyone else knows, who gives a testimonial about how they used to ride way too hard on the street (in their words "like a tool"). I don't see the profound lesson others seem to be gleaning. In fact, I tended to agree with the parallel to alcoholism, although the last two lines of the rsrider's post seemed a bit harsh. My thought at the time was BFD, I've been passed a few times by the "A" group and having one less riding the hills at triple digits doesn't bother me at all.

Then SP2 replies as if I had personally attacked him? Had he posted this himself, or if I knew he was a BARFer I probably would have been a bit more respectful. In hindsight I should have known since SBR is local too, but I didn't. Never had any foul intent other than questioning the profound lesson others seemed to be implying. I too am married and have kids and know the score.

As for the people who's response is basically "SP2 could kick your ass"...you just don't get it. I'm sure he is faster than me, and I don't care. I don't ride on the street to prove anything to anyone. I just enjoy it. Other people can ride for whatever reason they like and thats fine. Yes I ride fast sometimes, but for the most part I'm in my comfort zone, and even if that means getting passed by a 'wing, then thats fine with me.

Nobody owes anyone any apologies, although I do wonder how all those personal attacks on rsrider escaped the Mods...guess thats just the BARF clique. Makes me wonder how the argument would have gone had SP2 really been some anonymous rider.

Anyways, peace to everyone and enjoy a safe and fun summer.
 

ob1ventura

Well-known member
^^^^^exactly:laughing

edit: oops, I was refering to Bluenote.....just a little late.
 
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Xenos

No! Not the Crack Slam!
That was a great read SP2 Racer. I didn't find your story preachy at all. It was a story about you and your life and your disisions. I have been only riding for six months now and I can't say it's going to slow me down but it has given me some real food for thought. These are deep experinces and leasons that if I can learn from someone else, then I won't have to learn them myself. Thanks again for a great read.
 

TrackCrafter

TrackCrafter
Xenos said:
That was a great read SP2 Racer. I didn't find your story preachy at all. It was a story about you and your life and your disisions. I have been only riding for six months now and I can't say it's going to slow me down but it has given me some real food for thought. These are deep experinces and leasons that if I can learn from someone else, then I won't have to learn them myself. Thanks again for a great read.

At 6 months you are setting the pattern that will be the foundation for the rest of your motorcycling life. Remeber to just have fun. Ride your bike every chance you can. Hang out with expieranced riders. You do not have to ride at their pace, they will always wait for you. The important thing is be a student, be a student all your life.

If you ever want to ride the southern stuff, shoot me an E-Mail. I would love to show you some great roads that were made for motorcycles.
 

mabbott

Well-known member
mlm said:
Then SP2 replies as if I had personally attacked him? Had he posted this himself, or if I knew he was a BARFer I probably would have been a bit more respectful. In hindsight I should have known since SBR is local too, but I didn't. Never had any foul intent other than questioning the profound lesson others seemed to be implying. I too am married and have kids and know the score.

You said earlier "one less squid on the road" that could easily be taken as a personal attack. I don't think that SP2 was trying to give a "profound" lesson, he was just telling his story. If you couldn't relate to it, then that is fine, many did. Many people stuggle with the "need for speed." If your way of coping with it is to not ride a sport bike on the street, well then I tip my hat to you. Knowing what you need to do to control yourself is admirable actually doing it is the hard part.

Posts are posts, if you don't relate to them ignore them and move on. There will always be something more to read. Not everyone likes what I say, hell I don't even like what I say! If someone learns from anothers actions then it is an effective post. If noone learns from it, then it is a typical post.

I think you have made some good points, I just think it was how you started that put a bad light on the rest of what you had to say. Just my 2cents:
 

Var

One Track Pony
I enjoyed reading your posts SP2. But seriously if it makes anyone change their mind about riding style then they hadn't fully accepted the risks of riding. I'd love to do trackdays once a week, that would keep me off the street for sure. But i need my fix and i'll take it where i can get it. Hopefully i'll be making enough money to keep the R1 at the track and cruise around on a V-strom or something else that's less retarded for street. I don't know exactly how fast you used to ride, but i've had days where i've wondered if i should be wearing both my tires to the edge or buying new knee sliders once a week. The warm weather is making me nervous...i hear the corners calling me out.
 

TrackCrafter

TrackCrafter
Var said:
I enjoyed reading your posts SP2. But seriously if it makes anyone change their mind about riding style then they hadn't fully accepted the risks of riding. I'd love to do trackdays once a week, that would keep me off the street for sure. But i need my fix and i'll take it where i can get it. Hopefully i'll be making enough money to keep the R1 at the track and cruise around on a V-strom or something else that's less retarded for street. I don't know exactly how fast you used to ride, but i've had days where i've wondered if i should be wearing both my tires to the edge or buying new knee sliders once a week. The warm weather is making me nervous...i hear the corners calling me out.

YOu are the only person that knows if you are taking to many chances.

Self analyze, and make a choice. It is not for me, nor any other person to save you. YOu may very well be a super safe rider with the skill and control to never have a problem.

My friends, my wife. They did what was required to give me the final wake up call, however deep down. I knew what I was doing and knew that the chances I took were selfish, foolish, and just wrong.

I do not have the right to judge other riders. I assume they will take responsabillity for themselves. I never said in all this thread nor my original that what I do, or did was the correct thing for any other person.
 

ALANRIDER7

MeowMeowMeow
kabazauls said:
Crashing is a fact, acceptable or not.


ps. I'm 33 yrs old and plan to continue hauling ass for the rest of my life.

You guys are still a bunch of pussies! :laughing

PUSSIES!

How many street trophies can you fit inside the coffin with you?

:|
 

ALANRIDER7

MeowMeowMeow
rsrider said:


The "take it to the track" shit is getting old. Yeah, the tracks there and it's an alternative, but I'm not going to stop riding the street, or get a 'tard, or any of that crap. The only bike that can give you the sensation, the handling, and the other technical advantages of a sport bike is.............wait for it............a fricking sport bike.


:rolleyes
 

Var

One Track Pony
SP2 Racer said:
YOu are the only person that knows if you are taking to many chances.

Self analyze, and make a choice. It is not for me, nor any other person to save you. YOu may very well be a super safe rider with the skill and control to never have a problem.


I believe the one and ONLY chance that i take is assuming the road will have consistant traction, which it obviously doesn't. I took a spill late last year on hwy 9 riding like i normally do. Nothing was different in the equation except the road.
 

Bluenote

Well-known member
ob1ventura said:
^^^^^exactly:laughing

edit: oops, I was refering to Bluenote.....just a little late.



Refering to me in reference to what exactly there Bubba?
Because I had the temerity to say something within this
thread that's the truth whether the likes of *you* agrees
with it or not?

Lets look at this , a guys made a decision that he
should be applauded for and subsequent to that a
whole slew of heel-nippers decide to do their pile-on
act.

And the fact remains as I stated , a goodly portion
of those sniveling at the OP within this thread
couldn't even keep him in sight on a WING , going
at a MILD pace.

So what's *YOUR* beef there BigMan and why bother
to bring me into it? Don't like what I say?The I cordially
invite you to skip my posts.




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