NFL 2020
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Eldritch
is insensitive
Is that how he finally passes Steve Young? :laughing
GAJ
Well-known member
No kidding.
Back in that day when I first came here EVERYONE seemed to wear those awful and expensive 49er jackets.
Now?
Not so much. :laughing
Eldritch
is insensitive
That washed up Viking that the Raiders eventually replaced with Vodka Collins?
That is a well stated troll, sir.
:laughing
CocoLoco
FN #5
Eldritch
is insensitive
Steve Young? Hell, he can't even carry Garcia's water yet.
:laughing
My cousin sacked Garcia when he was a DE for the Raiders. That's when Garcia was playing for Tampa though.
Can Brady at least get a John Brodie pass?
:laughing
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DynastySS
So slow it's criminal
That washed up Viking that the Raiders eventually replaced with Vodka Collins?
That is a well stated troll, sir.
:laughing
One Tuck rule away from having the universe reversed where Gannon is SB champ and the GOAT.
DynastySS
So slow it's criminal
in all seriousness I never looked up the side by side stats between Brady and Montana. That is pretty unreal, Montana isn't even remotely close in any respect. Not wins (regular season of playoffs), not TDs, not yards, not wins %, not superbowls, not MVPs, not probowls, not completion percentage, not passer rating, literally nothing.
Hell Brady has nearly double the games played and barely has more interceptions.
I thought there would be at least one thing Montana had him bested in, but I can't find a single thing. Pretty wild.
Hell Brady has nearly double the games played and barely has more interceptions.
I thought there would be at least one thing Montana had him bested in, but I can't find a single thing. Pretty wild.
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GAJ
Well-known member
From April.
Montana:
Career starts: 164
Regular-season record as a starter: 117-47 (.713)
Career passing yards: 40,551
Touchdowns: 273
Interceptions: 139
Completion percentage: 63.2 (3,409-for-5,391)
Passer rating: 93.2
NFL MVP awards: 2 (1989, 1990)
Pro Bowl selections: 8
NFL All-Pro selections: 6 (3 First Team, 3 Second Team)
Playoff record: 16-7 (.696)
Super Bowl wins: 4
Super Bowl MVP awards: 3
Brady
Career starts: 283
Regular-season record as a starter: 219-64 (.774)
Career passing yards: 74,571
Touchdowns: 541
Interceptions: 179
Completion percentage: 63.8 (6,377-for-9,988)
Passer rating: 97.0
NFL MVP awards: 3 (2007, 2010, 2017)
Pro Bowl selections: 14
NFL All-Pro selections: 5 (3 First Team, 2 Second Team)
Playoff record: 30-11 (.732)
Super Bowl wins: 6
Super Bowl MVP awards: 4
Eldritch
is insensitive
LOL, Always Raiders fans trying to push QB's with a career QBR Rating less than 70 as the GOAT. :laughing
"Bruh, he was the best punching bag in history for like 3 years while making little side arm lobs while we won with brutal Defense and Hard Running!" :laughing
Yeah, I mean part of that shit like I said is because of how much LONGER Brady has played. There is a reason that Favre held all the records for most of everything. You start for 20+ years you just win by attrition. My assumption is that Brady won't retire until Drew Brees is over and he passes Brees in Career yards.
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DynastySS
So slow it's criminal
Percentages are funny though, they don't really care about the par value. Brady's nominal and % figures are better than Montana's. So that tells me he had better longevity and better seasons.
Look at win %, td/int ratio, passer rating, yards/gm, etc. Those don't improve just because you play longer. In fact, unless you are Tom Brady they all go down as you get older (see Joe Montana for reference). That actually makes the figures even more impressive.
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
:laughing
My cousin sacked Garcia when he was a DE for the Raiders. That's when Garcia was playing for Tampa though.
Can Brady at least get a John Brodie pass?
:laughing
That was the game JaCarcass actually looked like he might possibly be an NFL QB and got Gruden fired from TB when the Raiders won, right?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nfl/recap?gameId=281228027&platform=amp
Good times!
DynastySS
So slow it's criminal
So I just want to make sure I fully grok this, the argument for Montana is that he played in a different era? There is no statistical or logical argument for Montana > Brady outside of Montana would have magically outperformed his career figures if he played in an era?
Is it fair to say that you think Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain would also best Jordan and LeBron?
Eldritch
is insensitive
Granted, that is real for sure. I'm still holding out for Niners fans to at least admit Brady is better than at least John Brodie (W74-L76-T8).
:laughing