instagram will soon have the right sell photos uploaded to it

per instagram:

Kevin Systrom co-founder said:
Advertising on Instagram

From the start, Instagram was created to become a business. Advertising is one of many ways that Instagram can become a self-sustaining business, but not the only one. Our intention in updating the terms was to communicate that we’d like to experiment with innovative advertising that feels appropriate on Instagram. Instead it was interpreted by many that we were going to sell your photos to others without any compensation. This is not true and it is our mistake that this language is confusing. To be clear: it is not our intention to sell your photos. We are working on updated language in the terms to make sure this is clear.

To provide context, we envision a future where both users and brands alike may promote their photos & accounts to increase engagement and to build a more meaningful following. Let’s say a business wanted to promote their account to gain more followers and Instagram was able to feature them in some way. In order to help make a more relevant and useful promotion, it would be helpful to see which of the people you follow also follow this business. In this way, some of the data you produce — like the actions you take (eg, following the account) and your profile photo — might show up if you are following this business.

The language we proposed also raised question about whether your photos can be part of an advertisement. We do not have plans for anything like this and because of that we’re going to remove the language that raised the question. Our main goal is to avoid things like advertising banners you see in other apps that would hurt the Instagram user experience. Instead, we want to create meaningful ways to help you discover new and interesting accounts and content while building a self-sustaining business at the same time.

Ownership Rights

Instagram users own their content and Instagram does not claim any ownership rights over your photos. Nothing about this has changed. We respect that there are creative artists and hobbyists alike that pour their heart into creating beautiful photos, and we respect that your photos are your photos. Period.

I always want you to feel comfortable sharing your photos on Instagram and we will always work hard to foster and respect our community and go out of our way to support its rights.
 

mean dad

Well-known member
uh, sure, that's better. didn't realize I was doing anything but responding to what i thought was a statement said about me. I hadn't noticed too many more comments amounting to abuse complaints, just unhappy folks posting their feelings about current issues.

so, if there's some guy that thinks he can make a million bucks by hosting pictures for free and charging companies for the opportunity to place small, unobtrusive ads on the hosting site, you think people that utilized this free site are self-entitled cheap asses? Do you consider people that use Google without paying them to be cheap asses as well? I don't remember a mass uprising of people demanding a free image modification site that would also host their modified pictures. I remember Instagram asking people to use their free site.
And now that someone has purchased the company, and wants to make big bucks (and seamlessly integrate more information), they're changing the terms of service.
It's not out of the realm of possibility that people might not like this.
 

Marlowe

Beer Whisperer
Yakoo, that statement makes this development seem much more reasonable.

That statement is a huge backpeddle because their auth servers have been crushed today...that many people exporting content and nuking their accounts.

:laughing

If their intent were entirely on the up and up they wouldn't have snuck in things like that mandatory arbitration opt-out-only-via-us-mail-letter bullshit.
 

Yo!Joe!!!

Well-known member
That statement is a huge back peddle because their auth servers have been crushed today...that many people exporting content and nuking their accounts.

:laughing

If their intent were entirely on the up and up they wouldn't have snuck in things like that mandatory arbitration opt-out-only-via-us-mail-letter bullshit.

That's exactly how I see it. :laughing
 

Bassem

Well-known member
That statement is a huge backpeddle because their auth servers have been crushed today...that many people exporting content and nuking their accounts.

:laughing

If their intent were entirely on the up and up they wouldn't have snuck in things like that mandatory arbitration opt-out-only-via-us-mail-letter bullshit.

From Slashdot:

And so closes another chapter of "We Let Lawyers Write a Legal Document and The Internet Freaked Out."
 

UDRider

FLCL?
Didn't facebook tried to pull something similar in regards to all the content uploaded to their website a year or two back?
 
From Slashdot:

And so closes another chapter of "We Let Lawyers Write a Legal Document and The Internet Freaked Out."

This 100%

Lawyers do what they do - protect the business in full - it's not up to them to create new legal processes.

IG learned that there has to be a happy medium.
 

Zerox

Can I be....frank?
If my doggie's pic on instagram gets famous and makes them millions, you saw it here first.
 

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Buloong

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Damn I still have some poop pics hanging in there. And this POS program keeps cropping my pics to a square that makes the poops hella short.
 

mercurial

Well-known member
uh, sure, that's better. didn't realize I was doing anything but responding to what i thought was a statement said about me. I hadn't noticed too many more comments amounting to abuse complaints, just unhappy folks posting their feelings about current issues.

Yea, I wasn't singling you out or anything, just pointing out a general annoyance I have. I just started talked back to you because you were the one who responded directly to my post. It's all good.

Berto I agree man, social media companies have the dumbest business models ever. The targeting signals don't provide much of value to advertisers, there is no real social aspect to advertising (who the hell really wants to "communicate" with brands?), nor do people have much commercial inclination while they are communicating with friends. The only way to innovate and make real money is to do stuff that increasingly violates privacy or otherwise violates social norms. It's really just a train wreck and we should expect increasingly desperate maneuvers to justify market caps.
 
Berto I agree man, social media companies have the dumbest business models ever. The targeting signals don't provide much of value to advertisers, there is no real social aspect to advertising (who the hell really wants to "communicate" with brands?), nor do people have much commercial inclination while they are communicating with friends. The only way to innovate and make real money is to do stuff that increasingly violates privacy or otherwise violates social norms. It's really just a train wreck and we should expect increasingly desperate maneuvers to justify market caps.

I think Berto was being facetious. :dunno now

Plenty of the buying public wants to "communicate" with brands, at least in the action sports communities. Most brands don't understand how to properly communicate and engage with their consumers though.

Do you reddit? Go through and look at the brand "AMA"s - this is an incredibly easy way for a brand to have a discussion with it's consumer. The last YouTube AMA was deplorable - as a consumer I read the responses and envisioned the speaker to be a "stuffy pr/ad exec" and someone I would't hold in my list of friends, actually leaving a negative taste.

There are ways to do it right and to do it well but from experience it's often the more senior individuals who are the wall that must be climbed in order to do it right... It's a new business model for sure and I will put money on it - those 40+ year old ad/pr/marketing execs are the ones holding back the growth of social media ad platforms.
 

Holeshot

Super Moderator
Staff member
I think Berto was being facetious. :dunno now

Plenty of the buying public wants to "communicate" with brands, at least in the action sports communities. Most brands don't understand how to properly communicate and engage with their consumers though.

Do you reddit? Go through and look at the brand "AMA"s - this is an incredibly easy way for a brand to have a discussion with it's consumer. The last YouTube AMA was deplorable - as a consumer I read the responses and envisioned the speaker to be a "stuffy pr/ad exec" and someone I would't hold in my list of friends, actually leaving a negative taste.

There are ways to do it right and to do it well but from experience it's often the more senior individuals who are the wall that must be climbed in order to do it right... It's a new business model for sure and I will put money on it - those 40+ year old ad/pr/marketing execs are the ones holding back the growth of social media ad platforms.

Trust me, there's a way to do it...but no one's even come close to getting it right yet. The photo part I thought Instagram/ Facebook would figure it out, but they haven't. Tim knows what I'm talking about, but no way will we discuss it here...why give the solution away for free!
 
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