Battle to save Santa Rosa

Moto Beck

Moto Beck

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the CNN home page is now void of anything about the wild fires - i guess once the click rate falls they move on to the next thing... ridiculous
 
TheRiddler

TheRiddler

Riddle me this.
NeilInPacifica said:
Cool site. Looks like most of the fire/air activity is hanging over Lake Berryessa. Are they getting water there, or is that where fire is most concentrated?
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The Atlas fire (43k acres, 3% contained), which is huge, is just south of Berryessa. That one is threatening both Fairfield and Napa. The Tubbs fire (34k acres, 10% contained), also huge, is the primary one threatening Santa Rosa.

Not really making the news because it's so far north is the Redwood Valley fire (32k acres, 5% contained), also huge.

CalFire map.

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LittleBigGirl

LittleBigGirl

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i_am_the_koi said:
Local news saying to have them coordinate with their hospital or company to relieve those who are already here without clogging the area.

Other providers are needed at evac centers outside the area for walk in and special needs evacuees.
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Thanks, Mr. Koi! I am checking in with evacuation center managers now.

komali2 said:
If you want a more direct contact, email

Send this information:
info@volunteernow.org

First and last name
Phone and email
areas of interest / expertise / Bilingual
donations - list items


Can't remember which fire department gave this to me. Make sure to mention that you're in the bay area.
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Emailed.
 
canyonrat

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
Last night was great! Winds were forecast to keep increasing until 6am today, but at 9pm last night (wed) they stopped. I've been told most of the burned areas have smoldered out and are only a very slight threat.

I'M GONNA CALL IT - SANTA ROSA IS SAFE!




Pray for the town of Sonoma and Geyserville. One of the firefighters called me this morning and said Oakmonte is 99% gonna make it! (But this is unofficial).


So now we will be starting recovery and rebuilding. I'm hoping to finally get a pay-raise, the first in 12 years. After making basically the same amount since 2005, I'm gonna ask for a 50-60% pay raise as all of us trained carpenters that survived the great recession and did not loose (our job, our truck, our house, and our wife) which happened to about 50+% of the carpenters.

It is clear we need carpenters that know and understand how to build in high risk fire zones. And I have all sorts of ideas not mentioned in the code books. Those code writers don't talk to remodeling carpenters that see 20 years later what does and does not work.

I'll also call it that clearing away from your house is not the best solution. I have several ideas that are better then that.
 
canyonrat

canyonrat

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I'm also gonna say I think that at 3500 homes lost in Santa Rosa, averaging 1800sqft at a rebuild cost of $250 per sqft we have suffered about 2 billion in losses.

We have been short of carpenters and many carpenters lived in the Coffee Park neighborhood, and lake county is way short on housing, Marin and San Fransisco counties and Fairfield and Vacaville are tight on housing, means we are in for a very slow and long rebuild.
 
S

Schnellbandit

I see 4 lights!
komali2 said:
That link gets thrown around on twitter a lot, but it seems useless. Look at the list under "opportunities" - first of all you have to select your "interest" - anything from "blood services" to "international services" to "leadership." Then when you find "disaster services" (my best guess) you're provided with a huge fucking list of code-word preceded things like "action team trainee" etc.

I get that they don't want a bunch of inexperienced people milling around Napa, but fuck's sake, I'm a strapping (ok, chubby) young lad with good lungs, where's the "give me a shovel and put me on firebreak duty" link? Or the "I have four air mattresses and a big living room and a car, put people in my house" link?
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Both the SO and PD threw that link out, I relayed it directly.

They don't have time to explain their chain of command to you, they don't have spare radios to give you nor teach you how to use them, they don't have insurance to cover any injuries you might sustain or any damages you might cause. They insist on a well defined chain of command, adherence to directions, instructions and orders.

Just for starters, there are plenty of other reasons.
 
bergmen

bergmen

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TheRiddler said:
The Atlas fire (43k acres, 3% contained), which is huge, is just south of Berryessa. That one is threatening both Fairfield and Napa. The Tubbs fire (34k acres, 10% contained), also huge, is the primary one threatening Santa Rosa.

Not really making the news because it's so far north is the Redwood Valley fire (32k acres, 5% contained), also huge.

CalFire map.
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The CalFire site is not a very good site for current fire front activity. It shows the boundaries but not much else. This is the site I am relying on for a more comprehensive visual status of the various fires and whether (especially for us) the Redwood fire is of any threat to Ukiah:

https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/?/38.3685/-122.3654/9

Dan
 
GB500guy

GB500guy

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bergmen said:
The CalFire site is not a very good site for current fire front activity. It shows the boundaries but not much else. This is the site I am relying on for a more comprehensive visual status of the various fires and whether (especially for us) the Redwood fire is of any threat to Ukiah:

https://maps.nwcg.gov/sa/#/?/38.3685/-122.3654/9

Dan
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Thanks for that link Dan. Do you know how often that map is updated, or where to see a time/date for it?

-Bill
 
EastBayDave

EastBayDave

- Kawasaki Fanatic -
If your a Amateur ("Ham") radio operator, the frequency for helping the NAPA fire is:
Hams are using 146.910FM simplex for traffic relegated to the the Napa fire
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Again that's 146.910 simplex

I have been unable to find out more due to 95% my radio station being down at this time. I'll post when I find out more...

If your in the North Bay/Fire area, you likely can get more info listening to the above frequency. I do not have the range w/my "walkie-talkie." :cry
 
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Schnellbandit

I see 4 lights!
Tomorrow, Sat at 9am, FEMA will be at 427 Mendocino Ave (Press Democrat Bld) to help those affected start claims for aid, insurance, get new documents etc

The DMV will be there to issue replacement driver licenses on the spot.

Posting this for Barfers who might not have access to TV but read the forum via smartphones or tablets. Pass word to people you know that might not know but need to start claims, get replacement docs etc.
 
canyonrat

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
I can't sleep. It looks like today (Monday) people are gonna come out of "shelter in place mode" and go to work. Dust and ash continue to fall all over town. Jen and I had 2 sets of friends stay with us who lost their homes. Both horrific escape stories. Our place was kind of a base station. Friends stopped by all weekend. I'm gonna head to CHP to get an all access pass to go assess some clients homes and out buildings. I discovered I melted my tires on Monday getting up to search for our friends dog. He found the dog in a Marin County shelter. He was over joyed. He had been crying for days at his loss and because he had to leave the dog behind and run for his life. He cried more seeing his dog alive and uninjured. My wife got a job in Sacramento 9 weeks ago. Shes been staying with my mom and step dad during the week and coming home on weekends. The contractor I work for and his team just finished 3 hard and long jobs, 1 burned down, and the current one needs engineering but the engineers house burned down, and the job site is in an evacuation area with the roof mostly off and rains coming and I need to go to Sacramento, rent a house, come home prep our house and rent it to friends all by 9am this morning. LOL Aint gonna happen LOL Even before the fire I was saying I need 2 weeks off to recover from the work and another 2 weeks to do stuff around our property. Now I need to invent a new fire prevention system that everyone is gonna want for their homes. But now I'm going to live in Sacramento and do some work in Santa Rosa and try to find work in Sacramento. I think I'm gonna need more then two weeks off....
 
canyonrat

canyonrat

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Also the "count" number of units lost is going to be much higher in the days to some. A unit is a house, an apartment (not the building but each apartment), a granny unit, a duplex is 2 units, mobile home, etc. I'm looking at it and seeing just shy of 6000 units in just Santa Rosa.
 
canyonrat

canyonrat

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20 years ago when they were building Fountain Grove we would "race" aka "go fast" on the streets up there, No one was up there at first. It took them 10 years to build it out. So we may have a second chance at doing that again while they take another 10 years to re-build it out.
 
x42bnx

x42bnx

Drives Like a Jerk
Just wanted to chime in here, Saturday I spent all day volunteering and brought a truck load of donations up. I was completely dumbfounded by the amount of destruction, it's not just one large fire - it's many, many small areas that were out of the containment zone that caught fire.

I also have been reading horror stories on some asshole citizens who are deciding to double and even triple rent amounts, I'm fairly confident that during a state of emergency that price gouging is illegal and that includes rentals. More importantly, who sees an absolutely terrible situation like this and decides to make even more money on it? No offense but, they need to be shot.
 
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