Battle to save Santa Rosa

canyonrat

Veteran Knee Dragger
It's just awful here. Many friends lost their homes. One client were we just finished working lost their home. Many more threatened.

THE NEXT HUGH FIRE WAVE WILL BEGIN SOON.

I picked up a really close friend at 7am Monday in a shopping parking lot. He had his clothes, cell, and wallet. He was covered in ash. In total shock. He's a retired brilliant Doctor, but stood there looking like an old confused befuddled man. He lost everything including his dog. His wife was away visiting their children.

I've driven by the Veterans Building many times. Today at 9am was the worse. I saw a husband and wife in pajamas with one small suitcase, three 8 year oldish children in pajamas, no shoes on, hair all messed up. All were covered in a bit of ash. Slowly walking along the sidewalk heading toward the Veterans Building. There are thousands there right now.

I live near to the police station in Santa Rosa and on PG&E power grid 1 (hospitals, police, medical buildings). PG&E will keep us powered as long as they can.

What the news is not saying.

Thousands of small fires burn with no firefighters present. Firefighters are mostly not fighting fires but evacuating people. This afternoon or evening is the final stand. By reading between the lines, it looks like most of the firefighters will be defending Santa Rosa. It should be spectacular. The greatest urban aerial fire fighting bombing in history should occur soon. The winds need to be stronger so the planes can see the ground. I'm hoping both 747 bombers are used. That will be cool to see 747's just 100 feet above houses! Rumor has it that two D10 Caterpillars will be positioned deep in the city to be used IF NEEDED to create fire breaks, meaning they will bulldoze houses. Winds are picking up right now. Official forecasts are for winds at about 25. My gut says 40.

The worse case. If you see on TV flames coming down a hill side and in the foreground is the tall Flamingo Hotel sign/pillar then that means the fire will be entering the center of Santa Rosa. If that happens what we will see is embers floating everywhere, then one will get sucked up through the eve vent of a house and land on 60 year old dry timber in the attics and BOOM the house explodes in flames and it sends more embers to the next house. Roughly every 10th home. This is called the “slow march” and is about impossible to stop or even slow. The final defensive line with be (guesstimate except for Fourth St) North St to Fourth St to Mission Blvd. That's when (guess and rumor) the D10's would be used. These neighborhoods are old and have lots of vegetation and trees with those trees covering/canopying the streets which will keep the fire trucks from going into/under them. The area to be protected south of Fourth St is called the Memorial Hospital Neighborhood and contains many medical buildings, convalescent hospitals, the police/fire HQ, AND MY HOUSE! If the fire is held to those defensive lines then we would see the most expensive disaster in the United States history...around 65 billion dollars. And we will see all lanes of HWY 101 switched to south bond as 40,000 flee.

It is likely our three main parks in town will burn 100%. Annadel State Park which is one of the best mountain bike parks in the country, Spring lake, and Howarth Park. Almost no resources are on that fire with just some structure defense on the western side of the parks.

Most efforts are on the Tubbs fire north of Santa Rosa.

Oakmont is more defensible with houses more spread out and well kept yards.

The news keeps talking about recovery, I think this is too soon, and gives people the false sense that things are getting better/ending.
 

Moto Beck

The Longest Title Allowed
it's been horrible reading all of the news about this and what you guys are going through - is your house and property safe or is the evacuation zone approaching where you are?

I think many want to help but not get in the way of the fire fighting effort either.

Is there anything that you/your neighborhood needs? Can BARF help?
 

Guoseph

Well-known member
it's been horrible reading all of the news about this and what you guys are going through - is your house and property safe or is the evacuation zone approaching where you are?

I think many want to help but not get in the way of the fire fighting effort either.

Is there anything that you/your neighborhood needs? Can BARF help?

Should have a thread (maybe this one) where we can try to organize some sort of effort to help, whether it is providing space, supplies, or transportation.
 

Moto Beck

The Longest Title Allowed
Should have a thread (maybe this one) where we can try to organize some sort of effort to help, whether it is providing space, supplies, or transportation.

there was something in the kitchen sink but i can't find it now - don't want to turn all of these threads into that but I think many of us are willing to help if we can
 

dravnx

Well-known member
Mark, while things are definitely dire in our town, there are no D10's positioned to create fire breaks and the fire line in Annadel is holding. While I can understand your fear, expressing your "gut feelings" about the weather in opposition to what the experts are stating is reactionary and we need calm. The change in wind direction will drive the Annadel fire away from Santa Rosa.
Please don't spread rumors, only facts.
 

TheRiddler

Riddle me this.
I'm getting called in early (CHP). My family is also evacuating. I'm watching jumbo jets (firefighting) fly by my house.

I agree that the news is inaccurately talking about recovery. We're still focusing on simply getting people out in time to save lives.
 

gixxerjeff

Dogs best friend
OP put together an alarmingly accurate assessment of the situation.
This shit is far from over.
Like an idiot, I tried to believe Monday was the big bang and the worst was behind us.
Clearly that is not the case. (edit: may not be the case)
My sincerest positive thoughts go out to those that need them.
 
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rebekahlynn

racer x
It's so hard to sit back and watch this from 100 miles away (south bay). Absolutely gut wrenching.
 
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ThumperX

Well-known member
We have trucks horse and livestock trailers ready to go but other than Marin Humane Society we haven't been invited to leave names, numbers, or anything.

Very very frustrating.

A friend has his dozier ready on the trailer, but was turned away, he could create an amazing break with that thing.
 

Cincinnatus

Not-quite retired Army
The skies are full of smoke at least all the way down to Mountain View. I hope everyone that needs to GTFO of there does so immediately. There are already 15+ deaths, I don't want any more added to that grim total.
 
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