AB 51 - Time to support it!!

budman

General Menace
Staff member
That part I got.

What happened to splitting on single lanes?

It is a gray area now that will not be codified by this bill.

If you ask most CHP they will not ticket you for it, but they can now if they find it to be dangerous.

I think you continue to take the risk when this bill passes should you decide too.
 

clutchslip

Not as fast as I look.
Nope. OAL (Office of Administrative Law) basically caused the CHP to pull the guidelines themselves. Not forced, but precipitated it, based on a citizen complaint about underground regulations.



The bill itself, as currently written, says nothing about sharing on single lane (each direction) roads.
What has this to do with how the bill was presented last year versus now? Nothing. The bill HAD speed codes.
Here read this:
The REVISED AB51 with the removed speeds.
:rolleyes
 

Marcoose

50-50
Attempting to share lanes on single-lane roads like Highway 35 and 9 seems like a Bad Idea. I can't say that I've ever done it and would be very surprised if it were made legal...

^Pretty much this^
You two never split in single lanes? Never? Hard to picture, but I take your word.



If this bill passes as written, it would most likely remain in the gray area of officer discretion. Do it like an ass, get a ticket. Do it like a productive member of society, get to your destination faster.
Everything is at the discretion of the officer. 1 mph above the limit; ticket. 30mph above; no ticket. Go figure. There's nothing to do with being an ass or being "a productive member of society". (What kind of ridiculous bullshit argument is that?)

But you three do seem in agreement with me: As written/proposed, splitting is going from legal everywhere to further codified but not in single lane roads.

Why can't single lane be inserted in the language?
 

Surj

Uneasy Rider

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Won't happen Mark. There are too many variations that are dangerous.

Cars turning left... cars turning right and they are not going to say on freeway on ramps sort of thing. Ever try anything close to this with politicians and the Government agencies that regulate/ apply the law??
 

gixxerjeff

Dogs best friend
Marcoose,


Attempting to share lanes on single-lane roads like Highway 35 and 9 seems like a Bad Idea. I can't say that I've never done it and would be very surprised if it were made legal...

^Pretty much this^

Read the entire quote. That's why I am in such extreme agreement.
Nowhere did I say I never do it. I don't go the speed limit all the time either but I have a pretty good idea what the risk/reward ratio is.
 
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mean dad

Well-known member
Everything is at the discretion of the officer. 1 mph above the limit; ticket. 30mph above; no ticket. Go figure. There's nothing to do with being an ass or being "a productive member of society". (What kind of ridiculous bullshit argument is that?)

:laughing

Laneshare on a single lane road while revving the fuck out of your motor and flipping people off is probably going to get you a ticket faster than sharing while quietly being considerate of others.

And you seem to use the "be nice wherever possible" argument rather often, not sure why it sticks in your craw this time.
 

Marcoose

50-50
Won't happen Mark. There are too many variations that are dangerous.

Cars turning left... cars turning right and they are not going to say on freeway on ramps sort of thing. Ever try anything close to this with politicians and the Government agencies that regulate/ apply the law??

Understood. So it's going from not illegal to not included on single lane roads and on ramps.



:laughing

Laneshare on a single lane road while revving the fuck out of your motor and flipping people off is probably going to get you a ticket faster than sharing while quietly being considerate of others.

And you seem to use the "be nice wherever possible" argument rather often, not sure why it sticks in your craw this time.

When it was the last time you saw me revving up and flipping people?
 

mean dad

Well-known member
When it was the last time you saw me revving up and flipping people?

Did I say you did? No I did not.
Perhaps you misread my post. You stated "There's nothing to do with being an ass or being "a productive member of society". (What kind of ridiculous bullshit argument is that?). I was merely pointing out how acting like an ass could garner the attention of police.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Understood. So it's going from not illegal to not included on single lane roads and on ramps.

You are being to literal... I already said it is not defined as legal now.. you pass/share on the right where someone can make a right turn it is illegal. You go over the fog line it is illegal.

You pass/share on the left it where someone can make a left is not clear, but sure not safe under any circumstances...

Last post I am answering so don't quote me.. :rant
 
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