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JMack

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What penance do you require? Because I can't understand

WOW... you must love hearing your own voice.

Penance? How about you just own up to all your lies and not try to rationalize them. You just think we're stupid or something.

Hey is that your hand in the cookie jar? Uh No... technically .. it belongs to the upper extremity which is then controlled by the brain, and y'all know I speak out of my ass.. so, that's not mine.

Gimme me a break :rolleyes

I'm done. Have a great life!
 

Challenger

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Oh man... another country, another motorcycle forum... similar stylish start, ended up as a book " searching for lost respect by "HD-man" " and now it's series of 3 books.
Guy made excellent money out of it, starting a website story that got lot's of attention!!! :laughing

Great story with fucked-up "J" personality :teeth

How about series 2 with A and K :laughing
 

Holeshot

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Feanor Finale > Lost Finale

Hope to see you around Feanor. :thumbup

Steve

I was thinking the exact same thing Steve!

David: life's a soap opera for some and immensely boring for others. The fact that entertainment was provided under the guise of truth to the masses of BARF doesn't alter my perception of who you are now, VS as Stefan. I watch the Hills, loved the quasi realism to Blair Witch and can't see how people became so wrapped up in the fantasy of Feanor that now, they're mad at being mislead. So what...it was a fun ride for many and while, like Andy, I didn't read a majority of that shit and offered help with your riding and accident, it won't affect my hospitality to do the same with the next "Feanor". I'm not in sync with the concerto of voices who echo "down with David" simply because an odd bird breaks monotony. Run with it I say...

And on a personal note: it's time. Time to get involved with BARF meets and the people who are really cool and worth it to know on this site. Now that you don't have to hide who you are, it's time for the next chapter and time to make real, molecular friends....not those of 1's and 0's. There's lots of fools here who will guide you into a meet or just hit up a bux for shooting the shit. Take advantage of that...you're missing everything that BARF was founded on and continues to be its strength: rider friendship.

If you need a guide, PM me and I'll meet up with ya...for just a bux or a meet. I might bring Dan for the completion of a spectacular series.
 

rodr

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I would argue that the level and ferocity of response would indicate that this is in some why noteworthy. It may not be anything that "tickles your fancy", but it's hard to deny the impact. For example, I fucking DESPISE Dancing with the Stars, and for the life of me can't figure out the appeal. However, there's no denying the appeal of that show. Different strokes for different folks......

By your definition, every work of fiction in history comes from a pathological liar. That seems a bit harsh. Writers write. Fiction writers write fiction. I still don't understand the anger.

FWIW, I think nearly EVERY post on BARF from nearely EVERY poster should be viewed with a skeptical eye. I would certainly not reserve that filter for a select few. I'd apply that thinking to the entire internet.

We are most angry when we are angry with ourselves. What is at the core of this "ferocity of response"? I'm inclined to think it's anger with oneself for being fooled, or for understanding only too personally a fault that we see in someone else.

Chill out. David is a lot like most of us, only more so. :cool
 

Feanor

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I hope that the finality of some people's indignation is not permanent, and all I can do is try to reply with my own feelings of why I did what I did, and try to be the person that I always wanted to be from the beginning and hope for understanding.

The thing that is most difficult is that I realize, at this point, nothing will ever be enough for a few of the most angry. When someone lies, and you accuse them of it, the next thing said is "Why did you do that?!" In this case, I have tried to explain "Why I did that" but the emphasis of anger doesn't focus on trying to understand it, it's on being angry, and I can't take that away.

Because some will write paragraphs and public forum commentary about someone or something that they "Don't give a rat's ass about" or accuse me of wanting to control other's emotions from afar, shows me that I am different from that person only in a matter of degree, and that logic has given way to emotion and made us do something that, on the surface, makes no sense. We are both looking for public validation and an audience to display our feelings, otherwise, everything would be in private messages.

Do I like to hear myself talk? No, I never have... I like listening to other people talk. That is why I wrote to begin with, because there were answers there that could not be gotten in any other way, and until you are truly in a situation where you are ashamed to let people know who you really are, you won't understand.

Why won't I apologize profusely over and over again begging forgiveness? Because I know in my heart that I might even do the same thing again if I felt the need to (though I haven't) and to apologize for something I know I might do again would be both irrational, and disrespectful to you and to Barf.

If it's a situation of thinking there must be a winner and a loser, then even though I can't find a logic that truly fits that description in this case, I can still see a perception of competition where I will admit that I have lost, brutally, and lapped many times,

...and I am finally glad for losing

David
 

Feanor

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I was thinking the exact same thing Steve!

David: life's a soap opera for some and immensely boring for others. The fact that entertainment was provided under the guise of truth to the masses of BARF doesn't alter my perception of who you are now, VS as Stefan. I watch the Hills, loved the quasi realism to Blair Witch and can't see how people became so wrapped up in the fantasy of Feanor that now, they're mad at being mislead. So what...it was a fun ride for many and while, like Andy, I didn't read a majority of that shit and offered help with your riding and accident, it won't affect my hospitality to do the same with the next "Feanor". I'm not in sync with the concerto of voices who echo "down with David" simply because an odd bird breaks monotony. Run with it I say...

And on a personal note: it's time. Time to get involved with BARF meets and the people who are really cool and worth it to know on this site. Now that you don't have to hide who you are, it's time for the next chapter and time to make real, molecular friends....not those of 1's and 0's. There's lots of fools here who will guide you into a meet or just hit up a bux for shooting the shit. Take advantage of that...you're missing everything that BARF was founded on and continues to be its strength: rider friendship.

If you need a guide, PM me and I'll meet up with ya...for just a bux or a meet. I might bring Dan for the completion of a spectacular series.

Thank you Holeshot,

It's a great relief to be out from under "Stefan's" thumb... In a lot of ways I was beginning to feel as if that personality was becoming an influence, always knowing it was a crutch.

I want to do another trackday and I have no one to meet up with to guide me through that now, and even though people tell me that ZX-10s on thunderhill are not appropriate, and yes, my ZX-10 is littered with bling Ohlins, Marchesini, Brembo, Bazzaz TC etc etc... I'm hoping to learn alot from people like you who have tremendous experience and are willing to put up with me.

David
 

Ant

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mean dad

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........Because some will write paragraphs and public forum commentary about someone or something that they "Don't give a rat's ass about" or accuse me of wanting to control other's emotions from afar, shows me that I am different from that person only in a matter of degree, and that logic has given way to emotion and made us do something that, on the surface, makes no sense. We are both looking for public validation and an audience to display our feelings, otherwise, everything would be in private messages.......

:teeth

don't confuse an abundance of time and an inflated sense of compositional accumen with a need for public validation, stefan. i don't know you; to chastise you via pm's would be bad form. i'm merely adding to the thread that is on a public forum, and attempting to convey a viewpoint i see. also, i like hearing the clickety clack of my keyboard, so i make some of my posts as long as possible.:twofinger couple that with a slow work day, and it's either this thread, or bp. (and who's gonna remember bp in 6 months? you're barf royalty, baby!!:rofl)
i have no emotional investment in this. i missed the six years prior to the.....the discovery of shenanigans. i feel no betrayal, no remorse over misspent camaraderie, nothing. i never invited you anywhere, so i was never stood up. i didn't offer my help during your accident, so i didn't feel rebuffed. neither did i experience the contributions you made to this site. i only know what i see.

........Why muddy the forums here with public anger? If you want to discuss anything or vent your frustrations just pm me and we can meet somewhere you choose. What should I fear from doing this? I've had my back broken, and had to pay money for the experience..........

:thumbup OK, let's meet. Skipolini's Pizza in Concord. next wednesday, 7:30. it's actually a regular thing, so there should be a few people there that would love to meet you. probably some that wouldn't, but it's a big place, and we can put tape down the middle if we have to. i plan on spending a lot of money this weekend, so i can't promise to buy you a beer, but i'll smoke ya out...:party
 
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