Cold Shower!

[gixxerjoeca]

Since I am none of what you say I am, why should I not talk about the TOS? This trolling and baiting is not coming from me, it is coming from people like you. I came here looking for some information and some gave that to me, and the rest are just being jerks.

What gives anyone here the right to constantly make me or Stefan defend ourselves whenever we post anything of all? Just because you are curious? or feel tricked?

But that is fine. I will ignore the posts that upset me, so just keep posting them for others to read.

The Bay Area is not that big, its not possible that we will not meet on the road or at a stop somewhere, at that time I will have nothing to say to you either.

Why not have someone take one of your precious polls. If half of the people who respond want my husband and I to leave this website because we are duplicates, or trolls or do not exist or post stupid things, then I will never come back here and I will tell Stefan he should do the same, the members here that we talk to we don't even talk to using these website anymore.

It doesn't really make me angry, why should I stay somewhere where I upset so many people? It is not essentially productive.

J

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Oh My!!!

Welcome back Feanor/Jocelyn/David orwhateverthefuckyournameis.

 

[mean dad]

what a load of crap.

oooh, big bad barf made you lie? jesus fucking christ dude, you're a piece of work. you blatantly lie, and then pawn it off on literary license?
and blame it on your audience for believing it?

personally, i don't give a fuck. plenty of douchebags online, and in real life. what's one more?

 

[JMack]

These four words show an attempt at shirking personal responsibility. No one here forced you to lie / tell a story / whatever you want to call it. The entire facade was yours and yours alone, yet you try to share the blame with others.

Yeah, pretty much! Half assed apology. Not really what I was hoping for.

If you weren't cornered in the other forum, I wonder if you would have posted here? I guess, we'll never really know the truth and that in itself is always going to be the fundamental issue I will always have with you until you own up to everything and not blame anyone else.

Goodluck to you and welcome back.

 

[gixxerjoeca]

what a load of crap.

oooh, big bad barf made you lie? jesus fucking christ dude, you're a piece of work. you blatantly lie, and then pawn it off on literary license?
and blame it on your audience for believing it?

personally, i don't give a fuck. plenty of douchebags online, and in real life. what's one more?

+1
:applause
:thumbup

 

[mean dad]

Yeah, pretty much! Half assed apology. Not really what I was hoping for.

If you weren't cornered in the other forum, I wonder if you would have posted here? I guess, we'll never really know the truth and that in itself is always going to be the fundamental issue I will always have with you until you own up to everything and not blame anyone else.

Goodluck to you and welcome back.

there is no such thing as coincidence.
he posts an apology the day he gets outed on another forum? dollars to dimes he would have never come back (as feanor) if the zx10r thread hadn't blown up.
sort of a coerced apology, if you ask me.

 

[Feanor]

Yes, I was always planning to come back here, and come back as myself. It doesn't matter if you believe that or not. Having people create accounts on another website simply to carry out the function of sending someone a message of emotion is very, Cold Shower like. How can someone be outed if they never posted anything but zx-10r information and related on a zx-10r site? I'll be posting there as always since everyone I know there said, "who cares?" and now I'll be posting here as I've wanted to for a long time. No, there are no coincidences, and when someone takes the time to find another "Feanor" on a motorcycle website to say "hello" why shouldn't I say "hello" back?

Thank you for posting excerpts of Jocelyn's thoughts, it always reminds me of the woman who spoke that way.

I knew that there would be support as well as derision in posting here again, it was the reason I started posting here since the beginning. The insults are expected, it's the postings of support that actually hurt me the most because those are the connections where I broke a trust that has come to matter to me.

Apology? Aren't those just words? The woman who is Jocelyn in the story said to me once, "...don't apologize, just change who you are so the apology isn't necessary"

Some said that I was driven away and would never return, and I have, then they said i was never in an accudent, and I was, then they said I would never apologize, and I have, and now the apology isn't enough penance...

Please tell me when you think I've suffered the right amount. It's said "boohoo, barf made you lie" as if this is nothing, and then you take the lie and say it is...

I won't apologize twice, that would disrespect the magnitude of the responsibility I feel to make amends for all of it.

Why muddy the forums here with public anger? If you want to discuss anything or vent your frustrations just pm me and we can meet somewhere you choose. What should I fear from doing this? I've had my back broken, and had to pay money for the experience...

If you simply dislike me for your own insurmountable reasons, then that is my loss... And a significant one for me.

David

What penance do you require? Because I can't understand

 

[gixxerjoeca]

Yes, I was always planning to come back here, and come back as myself. It doesn't matter if you believe that or not. Having people create accounts on another website simply to carry out the function of sending someone a message of emotion is very, Cold Shower like. How can someone be outed if they never posted anything but zx-10r information and related on a zx-10r site?

I did not go to ZX10R.net looking to out you, i was searching threads with ShervinRRR in them. Well when i saw Feanor i searched your threads and found
"Hmm... Male and Female perspective" and I <3 irony so i had to post, and share with the BARF KS.

 

[mike23w]

been on forums long enough there's always a handful of compulsive liars.

they never admit to lying. they'll always spin it as the truth or some variation (it's mostly true so it's not a lie).

always assumed it's insecurity and overcompensating for their mundane life.
it's kind of sad and pathetic.

 

[Jakemate]

Daventura, turn in your card. We have a new "Creepy Dave".....

 

[Kornholio]

Daventura, turn in your card. We have a new "Creepy Dave".....

:rofl

 

[NONCENTS]

been on forums long enough there's always a handful of compulsive liars.

they never admit to lying. they'll always spin it as the truth or some variation (it's mostly true so it's not a lie).

always assumed it's insecurity and overcompensating for their mundane life.
it's kind of sad and pathetic.

True :thumbup

 

[mean dad]

Yes, I was always planning to come back here, and come back as myself. It doesn't matter if you believe that or not.
And yet here you are, explaining yourself to me so that i can understand your position, and feel empathy. methinks it does matter...

Having people create accounts on another website simply to carry out the function of sending someone a message of emotion is very, Cold Shower like. How can someone be outed if they never posted anything but zx-10r information and related on a zx-10r site? I'll be posting there as always since everyone I know there said, "who cares?" and now I'll be posting here as I've wanted to for a long time. No, there are no coincidences, and when someone takes the time to find another "Feanor" on a motorcycle website to say "hello" why shouldn't I say "hello" back?
You didn't come in to say hello, you came in to explain why what you did is ok, and that it's our fault as much as yours.

Thank you for posting excerpts of Jocelyn's thoughts, it always reminds me of the woman who spoke that way.

I knew that there would be support as well as derision in posting here again, it was the reason I started posting here since the beginning. The insults are expected, it's the postings of support that actually hurt me the most because those are the connections where I broke a trust that has come to matter to me.

Apology? Aren't those just words? The woman who is Jocelyn in the story said to me once, "...don't apologize, just change who you are so the apology isn't necessary"

Some said that I was driven away and would never return, and I have, then they said i was never in an accudent, and I was, then they said I would never apologize, and I have, and now the apology isn't enough penance...

Please tell me when you think I've suffered the right amount. It's said "boohoo, barf made you lie" as if this is nothing, and then you take the lie and say it is...

I won't apologize twice, that would disrespect the magnitude of the responsibility I feel to make amends for all of it.
I taught my children that to apologize with a caveat is not an apology, merely a platform for excuses. Did you not have a compassionate father when you were growing up?

Why muddy the forums here with public anger? If you want to discuss anything or vent your frustrations just pm me and we can meet somewhere you choose. What should I fear from doing this? I've had my back broken, and had to pay money for the experience...
why muddy the forums here with your lies and fabrications? apparently teh barf is (was) your personal plaything, with you attempting to control perception of you. the "anger" (really, to be fair, its more of a sense of betrayal than outright 'anger') is a natural progression of the emotions that you played with for what, six years? you ask people to become emotionally involved with your life, and then you innocently ask why they might be a bit put off by your duplicity?

If you simply dislike me for your own insurmountable reasons, then that is my loss... And a significant one for me.
insurmountable? what a fucking crock. i don't give two shits about you, bro. i think that you have played your hand, and lost. and now you're back, acting as if everyone should hold out their arms for a returning hero? writing style aside, you're just another screen name to me, with a bit more history than most.


David

What penance do you require? Because I can't understand

no penance required. but just as i can see when my daughters are apologizing solely to quell the discussion, your "apology" reeks of self righteous indignation at being cast in the light of a tool. you try to obfuscate the damage done by using your firm grasp of an impressive vocabulary, while desparately attempting to color new readers a shade of reluctant aquiescence.
i'll not follow you around, disproving every post you make, or cajoling others to dislike you. and truth be told, you lie very well. you'd probably make a hell of a wing man for a single fella like myself. but i'd always be a bit leery of what you might be telling the chickies while i was in the restroom, takin a piss.....

don't trip on me, boo. this is your world, i'm just here for the bitches.

 

[Squidly McSmearstain]

I'll go on record..........

I initially thought Feanor's (David's) posts were real. I spent a particularly enjoyable LATE night reading the "Cold Shower" thread and tried to convince my wife to read it as well. Yes, it was a soap opera. Yes, it was an odd mix of intellectual and trashy. Yes, I enjoyed it immensely.

After a while the whole thing reached "Santa Claus" status with me. I WANTED it to be real, I wanted to meet Stefan and Jocelyn; but the whole thing just didn't add up. Objective info won out over fantasy and I came to realize the whole thing was a ruse.

Then, I realized what an exciting situation this was. This was a truly interactive story. Every BARF member who posted on that thread became an active participant in the development of story as it was happening I still consider that thread to be my first exposure to a new form of entertainment that has yet to be fully exploited. I still think the "Cold Shower" thread is an example of something that can be done again and I WOULD enjoy the ride.

Again, for the record, I enjoyed the whole damn experience. The question of real versus lies in this context is immaterial to me. Perhaps it's because I view BARF as an entertainment source.

David, thanks for writing. It was good; very, very good. You provided me with a long source of entertainment and presented some VERY thought provoking ideas in an interesting way. I had fun. As a writer, there were times when you "lost me" a bit, but as a story teller you always had me. Even those who are "pissed" can't deny that your writing impacted them. As a writer that has to be satisfying as well as frustrating.

Whenever I see the "Cold Shower" thread and see that there has been another post on it, I ALWAYS look. My first thought when I see this thread is "Shit, that was FUN!" Yes, it was a lot of fun.

 

[tzrider]

Much has been made about the falsification of my accident, and this is just to let everyone know that the accident was real, more severe than I even wrote about and whose aftermath afflicts me still.

I didn't spent much time reading your CS thread, once it was clear where it was going. Glad you amused yourself and others with it.

Your response to my input after your accident seemed quite real. What was surreal was that the first post you made after the accident was as Jocelyn, reporting that her beloved husband was lying broken in a hospital bed. Weird shit, that.

I'm glad you've got others here that liked your writing and want to interact with you. For me, you're a hard guy to trust and life's too short.

 

[Anti-Hero]

Why does everyone keep stroking his literary prowess? It's really nothing special, unique, clever, or note worthy; just a screen name associated with a pathological liar.

Welcome back to BARF - With that said I'll view everything you post with a skeptical eye.

 

[Warpkor]

I'm with Squidly on this. It never occurred to me to view Feanor's posts as true or false. It didn't matter to me as I enjoyed the read. Few people can write and create to the extent that Feanor did. Thoughtful and emotionally provocative...good stuff for the plain and boring world that I live in.

 

[Ant]

Yes, I was always planning to come back here, and come back as myself. It doesn't matter if you believe that or not. Having people create accounts on another website simply to carry out the function of sending someone a message of emotion is very, Cold Shower like. How can someone be outed if they never posted anything but zx-10r information and related on a zx-10r site? I'll be posting there as always since everyone I know there said, "who cares?" and now I'll be posting here as I've wanted to for a long time. No, there are no coincidences, and when someone takes the time to find another "Feanor" on a motorcycle website to say "hello" why shouldn't I say "hello" back?

Thank you for posting excerpts of Jocelyn's thoughts, it always reminds me of the woman who spoke that way.

I knew that there would be support as well as derision in posting here again, it was the reason I started posting here since the beginning. The insults are expected, it's the postings of support that actually hurt me the most because those are the connections where I broke a trust that has come to matter to me.

Apology? Aren't those just words? The woman who is Jocelyn in the story said to me once, "...don't apologize, just change who you are so the apology isn't necessary"

Some said that I was driven away and would never return, and I have, then they said i was never in an accudent, and I was, then they said I would never apologize, and I have, and now the apology isn't enough penance...

Please tell me when you think I've suffered the right amount. It's said "boohoo, barf made you lie" as if this is nothing, and then you take the lie and say it is...

I won't apologize twice, that would disrespect the magnitude of the responsibility I feel to make amends for all of it.

Why muddy the forums here with public anger? If you want to discuss anything or vent your frustrations just pm me and we can meet somewhere you choose. What should I fear from doing this? I've had my back broken, and had to pay money for the experience...

If you simply dislike me for your own insurmountable reasons, then that is my loss... And a significant one for me.

David

What penance do you require? Because I can't understand

:wtf

She's fake for fucks sake!

 

[Volcomism]

Again, for the record, I enjoyed the whole damn experience. The question of real versus lies in this context is immaterial to me.

:thumbup

 

[Squidly McSmearstain]

Why does everyone keep stroking his literary prowess? It's really nothing special, unique, clever, or note worthy; just a screen name associated with a pathological liar.

Welcome back to BARF - With that said I'll view everything you post with a skeptical eye.

I would argue that the level and ferocity of response would indicate that this is in some why noteworthy. It may not be anything that "tickles your fancy", but it's hard to deny the impact. For example, I fucking DESPISE Dancing with the Stars, and for the life of me can't figure out the appeal. However, there's no denying the appeal of that show. Different strokes for different folks......

By your definition, every work of fiction in history comes from a pathological liar. That seems a bit harsh. Writers write. Fiction writers write fiction. I still don't understand the anger.

FWIW, I think nearly EVERY post on BARF from nearely EVERY poster should be viewed with a skeptical eye. I would certainly not reserve that filter for a select few. I'd apply that thinking to the entire internet.

 

[mean dad]

....FWIW, I think nearly EVERY post on BARF from nearely EVERY poster should be viewed with a skeptical eye. I would certainly not reserve that filter for a select few. I'd apply that thinking to the entire internet.

not sure if i believe this....