What will a post covid-19 world look like?

TylerW

Agitator
No one's mentioned this yet but I wouldn't be surprised if there are further screening at international airports when a major pandemic like this springs about. The root distribution for viral infections is human travel and exposure.

I've flown into Tokyo Narita a handful of times, and more often than not there was a thermal camera pointed down the hallway that you walk down towards immigration. I suspect they apprehend people for... a health check? if you're running a massive fever. I've never seen anyone pulled aside for that.

It's low hanging fruit, but can be fairly effective without being too intrusive or time consuming.
 

Kornholio

:wave
I hadn't thought of this before, but I saw Dr Lapook talk about swab testing being good for those with symptoms, but that blood test for antibodies also being important. They can identify those that may have already gotten Covid-19 with minimal or no symptoms at all and that those people can be considered safe to return to normal activities and help things return to "normal" sooner.
 

Climber

Well-known member
I hadn't thought of this before, but I saw Dr Lapook talk about swab testing being good for those with symptoms, but that blood test for antibodies also being important. They can identify those that may have already gotten Covid-19 with minimal or no symptoms at all and that those people can be considered safe to return to normal activities and help things return to "normal" sooner.
The question will be how much does the test cost?

Also, will insurance rates for those who test negative be higher until a vaccine comes out?
 

Kornholio

:wave
The question will be how much does the test cost?

Also, will insurance rates for those who test negative be higher until a vaccine comes out?

He continued by saying basically that. The government needs to get those tests moving quicker and cheaper as well as the swab tests for those with symptoms.
 

littlebeast

get it while it's easy
am wondering about the impact on the divorce rate. in challenging times, some couples / partners come together and others take their anxieties and frustrations out on each other. especially considering SIP and other social distancing protocols, and the ‘familiarity breeds contempt’ aspect of that - the strain on relationships may teach the breaking point for many who might otherwise have been okay. there’s a huge amount of conversation about acute medical support, but nothing (and probably very little bandwidth for) the emotional toll - and the resulting collateral damage. more than a few families may end up broken up and devastated by this.
 

Melissa

Peace,Love and Harmony
Mental health concerns have gone sky high for our county. So many people are being denied visits with their children who are in foster care. The anxiety and grief is real.
 

Beanzy

Wind free
am wondering about the impact on the divorce rate. in challenging times, some couples / partners come together and others take their anxieties and frustrations out on each other. especially considering SIP and other social distancing protocols, and the ‘familiarity breeds contempt’ aspect of that - the strain on relationships may teach the breaking point for many who might otherwise have been okay. there’s a huge amount of conversation about acute medical support, but nothing (and probably very little bandwidth for) the emotional toll - and the resulting collateral damage. more than a few families may end up broken up and devastated by this.

Domestic disputes are up. And one police commander was killed in such an encounter yesterday, I think it was.
 

aminalmutha

Well-known member
am wondering about the impact on the divorce rate. in challenging times, some couples / partners come together and others take their anxieties and frustrations out on each other. especially considering SIP and other social distancing protocols, and the ‘familiarity breeds contempt’ aspect of that - the strain on relationships may teach the breaking point for many who might otherwise have been okay. there’s a huge amount of conversation about acute medical support, but nothing (and probably very little bandwidth for) the emotional toll - and the resulting collateral damage. more than a few families may end up broken up and devastated by this.

Don't forget the emotional toll of financial devastation, be it a small business, lay-off, furlough, etc. People will be suffering this for possibly the rest of their lives.

People are really forgetting about this. It's not just the minimum wage retail workers or restaurant owners, people are being crushed throughout society.
 

TylerW

Agitator
am wondering about the impact on the divorce rate. in challenging times, some couples / partners come together and others take their anxieties and frustrations out on each other. especially considering SIP and other social distancing protocols, and the ‘familiarity breeds contempt’ aspect of that - the strain on relationships may teach the breaking point for many who might otherwise have been okay. there’s a huge amount of conversation about acute medical support, but nothing (and probably very little bandwidth for) the emotional toll - and the resulting collateral damage. more than a few families may end up broken up and devastated by this.

Which is to say nothing of already abusive couples, or children of abusive parents.

The past few weeks have made me incredibly grateful that I have a partner with whom I can support (and they support me) and that we can also be perfectly honest about when we need some space from eachother without hurting each other's feelings.

A good friend of mine is at his wit's end. He has a wonderful family, but he's also very introverted and needs solitude in order to be productive (he normally works from home, but without his wife or son) Without ready access to personal time he's really suffering.
 

littlebeast

get it while it's easy
Don't forget the emotional toll of financial devastation, be it a small business, lay-off, furlough, etc. People will be suffering this for possibly the rest of their lives.

People are really forgetting about this. It's not just the minimum wage retail workers or restaurant owners, people are being crushed throughout society.

absolutely. due to habits i have that are very ingrained and related to what i am normally writing in a work environment, i use words that are deliberately not inflammatory or provocative. most situations i deal with require that. in this case ‘challenging’ was a pretty extreme understatement. the things you mention are extreme stresses. ‘challenging’ doesn’t begin to describe it. and i agree with you, i think people world-wide will feels the effects for the rest of their lives - a form of global PTS.


Which is to say nothing of already abusive couples, or children of abusive parents.

The past few weeks have made me incredibly grateful that I have a partner with whom I can support (and they support me) and that we can also be perfectly honest about when we need some space from eachother without hurting each other's feelings.

A good friend of mine is at his wit's end. He has a wonderful family, but he's also very introverted and needs solitude in order to be productive (he normally works from home, but without his wife or son) Without ready access to personal time he's really suffering.

yeah - my SO and i have been stepping on each other’s last nerve on a daily basis (very abnormal for us). we have to make very deliberate effort to give each other some space - and not just physical space. i can only imagine what it would be like if our stress level was higher than it is, and we had more than each other to manage.

on a slightly lighter note, my SO was on a call with a colleague, and the dude told him that his neighbor brought his young daughter out into their backyard and she stood there and screamed super loud for a few seconds, and then her dad took her back in the house. i might try that myself. :laughing
 
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TylerW

Agitator
Food trucks will survive.

You think? I don't know much about their business models, but they seem to be heavily dependent on large concentrations of people - Busy office parks, streets with a lot of foot traffic, festivals.

We aren't really doing that anymore, and who knows when we will again. On the plus side, they're less costly to put in a non operative state.
 

Brokenlink

Banned
I think the nazis may actually do well during these times. I mean, they certainly know how to measure their social distancing....

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