Vegans protesting restaurant get front row of deer being butchered

KrustyKruser

El Chingon
i come from a long line of ranchers and beef processors, and i have never experienced such callousness. awesome? FFS show some fucking respect for a creature dying in order for humans to feed.

Whoah, sorry if awesome was the wrong word to use, I could have put more thought into it. I read that you come from a family of ranchers, your a world traveler, mountaineer, Olympic athlete, work with top physicists and engineers and who knows what else. Your life would be an awesome biography I would love to read. I also come from a couple generations of ranchers and my family still raises cows. I also hunt deer, wild pig, turkey, waterfowl, etc... your background isn't going to change my view that the chef did nothing wrong, and what else could he do while operating a legal business.
 

asdfghwy

Well-known member
3 months of protesting outside this guys restaurant? Fuck off, vegans. I'm surprised that's all the chef did.
 

lam@barf

cage killer
Bullies come in all flavors. They'll use any platform they think will give them power over others. They don't have to actually believe in what they uphold to be "justice", they just want to get off on telling someone else how to be or do.


Wouldn't it be nice if bullies would just go **** each other and leave the rest of us alone?

:ride
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
He was well within his rights and the vegans could leave, turn away or whatever. Nobody was forcing them to be there. They chose to make a statement and so did he.

I would throw up a flag but this was Camlanada.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
Seems like everyone involved is kind of an asshole.

But the protestors seem a little worse.

Everything the meat carver was doing seemed to make sense and be perfectly reasonable.

:dunno

I mean, honestly, a restaurant where you can watch them clean the kills is a lot more honest and appealing than one where a bunch of secrets happen off stage and then a surprise juicy red puck appears to eat with no notion of where it comes from.
 

#1Freak

Well-known member
Should have dispatched a chicken and buchtered it in from of them. Shit that is a grezt idea, charge patrons a premium for watching you prepare thier meal from start to finish, all tableside. Instead of dinner and a show, show and a dinner
 

CoorsLight

Well-known member
I'd agree that witnessing the slaughter of an animal followed by butchering is something that almost all meat-eating Americans would benefit from.

The protestors were being dicks, but the restaurant owner unwisely opted to lower himself to their level. You may think what he did was righteous, but he gave up his high ground when he did it.
 
I'd agree that witnessing the slaughter of an animal followed by butchering is something that almost all meat-eating Americans would benefit from.

The protestors were being dicks, but the restaurant owner unwisely opted to lower himself to their level. You may think what he did was righteous, but he gave up his high ground when he did it.

He didn't slaughter the animal in front of them, he carved up a deer leg. Don't seem like no big deal to me.
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
How much time would make it acceptable? 3 Months seems pretty patient to me.

I did not see in the article that he slaughtered the deer in front of them. Just carved up a leg.. Did I miss something?

Slaughtering it would be WAY over the top.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
Should have dispatched a chicken and buchtered it in from of them. Shit that is a grezt idea, charge patrons a premium for watching you prepare thier meal from start to finish, all tableside. Instead of dinner and a show, show and a dinner

You could probably make a mint with this in Japan, where the freshness of food is considered essential on a whole other level. It is why they like to eat live seafood, I understand there is a belief that the fresher food is, the healthier it is.
 

Bay Arean

Well-known member
trust me, you don't want me to elaborate.

WTF??? He didn't slaughter the animal in front of them. He just cut up a leg...what is callous about that. You can go to that burger joint in SF (is it Cable Car?) and watch the dude process burger in a little window.

And yes, I come from a similar long line of ranchers here in Calaforny.

With all due respect, lb, the fact that somebody rustled yer horse has nothing to do with anything in this story except that a restaurant is involved. ?????
 
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lam@barf

cage killer
I'd agree that witnessing the slaughter of an animal followed by butchering is something that almost all meat-eating Americans would benefit from.

The protestors were being dicks, but the restaurant owner unwisely opted to lower himself to their level. You may think what he did was righteous, but he gave up his high ground when he did it.
Whether or not he "gave up the high ground" depends on where someone's personal "I'm just so-o-o offended" threshold is.
 
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CABilly

Splitter
Everything the meat carver was doing seemed to make sense and be perfectly reasonable.

:dunno

I mean, honestly, a restaurant where you can watch them clean the kills is a lot more honest and appealing than one where a bunch of secrets happen off stage and then a surprise juicy red puck appears to eat with no notion of where it comes from.

The venison they serve is likely farmed (unless Canada still employs market hunting, but I doubt it). Farming of venison is the #1 contributor to the spread of chronic wasting disease, essentially mad cow for ungulates. In a few generations deer, elk, moose, etc populations may be wiped out or deemed inedible because of this disease with no vaccine, no cure, and possibly infectious to humans from eating or even handling meat.

So in that sense, I don't really like the thought of commercially available venison since CWD is already affecting populations of deer and is spreading throughout the continent.

As for the vegans and their sensibilities, you can watch food network or travel channel or a grocery store commercial and see raw meat being processed. There's nothing obscene about it.
 

Kurosaki

Akai Suisei - 赤い彗星
It's always entertaining when I look at Joe Rogan or Chad Mendes' Instagram and they're posting hunting pictures and commenters come out in hordes calling them cowards and saying stuff like why would you kill a beautiful creature, etc etc.

Probably will typing with one hand holding a cheeseburger.
 

Eldritch

is insensitive
The venison they serve is likely farmed (unless Canada still employs market hunting, but I doubt it). Farming of venison is the #1 contributor to the spread of chronic wasting disease, essentially mad cow for ungulates. In a few generations deer, elk, moose, etc populations may be wiped out or deemed inedible because of this disease with no vaccine, no cure, and possibly infectious to humans from eating or even handling meat.

So in that sense, I don't really like the thought of commercially available venison since CWD is already affecting populations of deer and is spreading throughout the continent.

As for the vegans and their sensibilities, you can watch food network or travel channel or a grocery store commercial and see raw meat being processed. There's nothing obscene about it.

That is sad. We need to find a genetic cure so we can make a better breed of meat thing.
 

clutchslip

Not as fast as I look.
Bullies come in all flavors. They'll use any platform they think will give them power over others. They don't have to actually believe in what they uphold to be "justice", they just want to get off on telling someone else how to be or do.
....
Excellent point. We have a troubled society because we allow a minority of bullies to dictate many things.
I agree 100%!

It's right up there with trying to tell people what sex positions they're allowed to use.
Is this with animals or other humans?
:sex
I am a mixed up hypocrite on animal eating. I stopped hunting because I didn't like killing the animals, but I currently eat meat that others have killed.
:facepalm
(I saw my grandma wring a chicken's neck and de-feather it at 3.5-4 years old. I castrated my first steer at 5. I took a steer to a slaughter house that same year. And so forth.....)
 

Abacinator

Unholy Blasphemies
fuck the patrons of restaurants and costing said restaurants money. let me tell you a little story about a wild black horse. so fierce, he could barely be ridden. a majestic creature if there ever was one. he was stolen away by thieves in the middle of the night - and ended up on a plate in a restaurant in san francisco. he died so some overfed asshole could enjoy a meal, wipe his greasy mouth on his white napkin and pack on another couple of pounds. worth it? not by a long shot.

While this is an awful story and I appreciate your passion, I'm not sure what a stolen horse being served at a restaurant in SF has to with with militant vegans protesting a restaurant serving venison in Toronto.
 
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