Sweden took a relatively unique approach to Covid and I feared the worst...
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GAJ
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IDK, they have changed their tactics so I guess that's "sensational"?
https://time.com/5901352/sweden-local-lockdowns/
They are now more restrictive in some locations than GOP States so Florida is now your new Sweden.
Celebrate.
Be happy.
i think it's sensational hype because it shows a doctored graph or inaccurate data to support a story. i'll wait for the news and data to come out, but i personally doubt that Sweden is truly locked down. Again, that's personally my opinion (the opinion of the user dagle). To reiterate, that's my personal opinion on the matter of Sweden, not a claim.
GAJ
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That's why I provided you another link.
Yakoo752
USN
This is really interesting from that article
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...dersokning-av-antikroppar-for-covid-19-virus/
In terms of age differences, the results show that antibodies to covid-19 were most common among people aged between 20 and 64 years. Overall, 6.7 per cent of samples in this group were positive, compared with 4.7 per cent in the 0-19 age group and 2.7 per cent in the 65-95 age group.
Seem like it's not herd immunity
Granted it is May data. I'm looking for an update.
One of their colleges did a recent analysis
The study showed that in the period from 31 August to 14 September 2020, only 6 of the 9,907 individuals who participated had an active infection with covid-19. The low incidence of covid-19 in the group is consistent with other observations that the spread of infection in the country remains low.
Found an partial update:
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...-mot-covid-19-i-olika-grupper-i-befolkningen/
The survey shows that 18.7 percent (95 percent confidence interval 14.8-23.3) of the inhabitants of rinkeby-kista district had depretable levels of antibodies. No statistical difference between the sexes or between age groups could be determined.
The analysis also shows that in the dossier there is a higher probability of antibodies in people working in professions with many contacts with other people. This applies, for example, to work in health and social care and service professions. Higher probability also includes people living in a household with five or more people.
The Stockholm region had the highest proportion of antibody positives at week 24, with 11.5 per cent followed by Västra Götaland with 4.9 per cent. Skåne had no antibody positive in the group of residue samples with a confidence interval from 0 to 2.9 percent.
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i didn't bother reading it and likely won't :thumbup no disrespect, i just don't believe any opinion from media. if there's a citation i missed (i ctrl+F'd for sourc* and cit* and couldn't find it), i'd give it a read but otherwise it's just another article about kim k's butt, cardi b's pepperonis or Removed for political content.
I've always been stuck on weather influencing outbreaks more than anything else. Hot/ Cold shifts push people indoors (not just homes, but everywhere). Time of exposure and concentration of exposure are greater indoors. Humidity is much less. Social distancing is more difficult, etc.
Yakoo752
USN
I get that. It's too hard to find real actual data to look out.
Infections / Hospitalizations/Deaths
It will be interesting to see if hospitalizations and deaths increase significantly or if we've identified "appropriate" treatment paths.
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it's almost like we're having the same conversation from 3 months ago, just go back 20 pages... that's literally what i said and was thinking about when i bumped this thread. i think sweden's doing something right, and i don't care about the politics, i care about what IV's they use, drugs, respirator/or not, hydration, nutrition, etc.
so we can find out if the huge number of deaths initially were actually all the old people and now we're relatively safe to open up because the majority of vulnerable people are already gone (high risk people stay home)
so we can find out if the huge number of deaths initially were actually all the old people and now we're relatively safe to open up because the majority of vulnerable people are already gone (high risk people stay home)
what we're likely seeing is seasonality... flu season's here for places north of the equator which also likely amplifies COVID's contagiousness. the virus likely lives longer as it gets colder and wetter and since it's vapor/droplet born (the cold brings on more vapor). Additionally, there's less sun/UV to sterilize whether it be the duration of the days or clouds blocking UV.
It was covered in one of the explainer videos for sweden's reaction to covid months ago. The seasonality component is also reason why there's a spike everywhere in a northern latitude but not southern (generally. anomalies will exist)
It was covered in one of the explainer videos for sweden's reaction to covid months ago. The seasonality component is also reason why there's a spike everywhere in a northern latitude but not southern (generally. anomalies will exist)
Climber
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Agreed. Also one additional factor, more people gathering indoors instead of outdoors.
That is probably the factors, with the addition of kids and young adults going back to school and mingling closer as a result) that has driven the flu seasons forever.
Johndicezx9
Rolls with it...
So it's no longer being promoted as a viable option if Sweden isn't doing it?