So you like racing but hate Formula One...why you should watch Sunday's race though

[budman]

What station is it on. I looked and could not find it.

 

[Climber]

One of the ESPN stations.

It won't be as early as normal, it's a night race over there so it's 9:00 am over here.

 

[budman]

ESPN2 for me and thank you.

I will be at work but will check it out tomorrow night.

 

[lizard]

Yeah. I enjoyed watching IROC. It pitted drivers against each other. Pure skill based racing.

Before IROC switched to Camaros:

 

[Holeshot]

I like F1, but NASCAR for the win in entertainment.

Grosjean though...super gnarly.

 

[yodaisgod]

I like F1, but NASCAR for the win in entertainment.

Eh...Indycar has been more entertaining than both for on track stuff. Off track drama...F1. NASCAR...so cookie cutter its a joke. Has been for a long time now. Of course, I'm coming from the perspective of someone grew up watching NASCAR in the 80's and 90's. :laughing

 

[GAJ]

Man, the most entertaining race in over a decade with a guy coming from last to first for the win, contenders fucking up big time and victory snatched from the "kid" at the last moment and BARF yawns! :laughing

 

[dravnx]

Man, the most entertaining race in over a decade with a guy coming from last to first for the win, contenders fucking up big time and victory snatched from the "kid" at the last moment and BARF yawns! :laughing

No yawning here. I was jumping up and down and yelling at the TV.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Eh...Indycar has been more entertaining than both for on track stuff. Off track drama...F1. NASCAR...so cookie cutter its a joke. Has been for a long time now. Of course, I'm coming from the perspective of someone grew up watching NASCAR in the 80's and 90's. :laughing

When NASCAR cars were actually like cars you could buy...

Remember when Ford and Bill Elliott came out with the new T-bird coupe and pretty much smoked everyone else because the car was actually "aero" compared to the GM cars?

 

[budman]

No yawning here. I was jumping up and down and yelling at the TV.

I was enjoying it until the recording stopped. :nchantr

Still twenty laps to go.. :facepalm

 

[Climber]

I watched NASCAR back in the late 70's and early 80's.
Yeah, Bill Eliott schooled the whole field, he was the MAN back in those years.

I got thoroughly turned off by it after the mid 80's when you had to have 'god' in at least every other sentence and they'd get fined if they didn't prominently display the sponsor's water bottles. It felt too much like WWF designated winner races after that.

 

[GAJ]

I was enjoying it until the recording stopped. :nchantr

Still twenty laps to go.. :facepalm

You missed the most epic fuck up by a team that simply has no history of mistakes on that scale.

Mind you that might be one of the most epic fuck ups by any F1 team in history.

I think there is a replay if you search for it on your DVR.

With any race I add 1.5 hours.

 

[SFMCjohn]

When NASCAR cars were actually like cars you could buy...

Remember when Ford and Bill Elliott came out with the new T-bird coupe and pretty much smoked everyone else because the car was actually "aero" compared to the GM cars?

:thumbup

remember when we used to boo the Intimidator ...? :teeth

those were the days ... arty:gsxrgrl

 

[Johndicezx9]

I liked him in the Wrangler car... :x

Musta been my love of bell bottom slacks! :green :laughing

 

[yodaisgod]

It felt too much like WWF designated winner races after that.

NASCAR has always had a cloud of suspicion when it comes to fixing races.

Tinfoil hat time kids!:laughing

Please note: this is before I dropped off watching NASCAR after Earnhardt Sr. died, so the following comments are based on me watching/paying attention to the sport at the time.

They have templates that they use during pre- and post-race inspections. This helps determine whether teams were changing aero, car heights, etc. before or during the race to gain an advantage.

It's been suspected that there have been separate templates used (beyond the different manufactures like Chevy, Pontiac (when they were involved at that time), and Ford) during the inspection periods to favor one drive(s) over another.

The most glaring "POSSIBLE" NASCAR fix in my mind is Earnhardt Sr's Daytona 500 win in 1998. On his 20th attempt, he gets the win on NASCAR's 50th anniversary. Who better to win such a race in those circumstances? Seems straight out of a Hollywood movie.

Now, I'm sure there is little to no evidence of NASCAR fixing that race. But, it's not out of the realm of possibility that NASCAR officials may have helped in someway to make sure he had a good chance of winning.

 

[Johndicezx9]

Really can't put anything past the France family, they're the "mega church" of racing, right down to the cocaine abuse. :laughing

 

[dravnx]

I was enjoying it until the recording stopped. :nchantr

Still twenty laps to go.. :facepalm

Hate when that happens.

 

[bikewanker]

NASCAR has always had a cloud of suspicion when it comes to fixing races.

Tinfoil hat time kids!:laughing

Please note: this is before I dropped off watching NASCAR after Earnhardt Sr. died, so the following comments are based on me watching/paying attention to the sport at the time.

They have templates that they use during pre- and post-race inspections. This helps determine whether teams were changing aero, car heights, etc. before or during the race to gain an advantage.

It's been suspected that there have been separate templates used (beyond the different manufactures like Chevy, Pontiac (when they were involved at that time), and Ford) during the inspection periods to favor one drive(s) over another.

The most glaring "POSSIBLE" NASCAR fix in my mind is Earnhardt Sr's Daytona 500 win in 1998. On his 20th attempt, he gets the win on NASCAR's 50th anniversary. Who better to win such a race in those circumstances? Seems straight out of a Hollywood movie.

Now, I'm sure there is little to no evidence of NASCAR fixing that race. But, it's not out of the realm of possibility that NASCAR officials may have helped in someway to make sure he had a good chance of winning.

Fixing any kind of race, never happen.

 

[yodaisgod]

I also remembered that races at Dayton are restrictor plate races which can be easily manipulated during the inspections.

Car #3 may have also been giving a every so slightly bigger restrictor plate because, you know, +/- tolerances can vary while doing the inspections.

 

[bikewanker]

I watched NASCAR back in the late 70's and early 80's.
Yeah, Bill Eliott schooled the whole field, he was the MAN back in those years.

I got thoroughly turned off by it after the mid 80's when you had to have 'god' in at least every other sentence and they'd get fined if they didn't prominently display the sponsor's water bottles. It felt too much like WWF designated winner races after that.

The one NASCAR event I attended was Talladega 1986. Some serious wind blast on the front straightaway to go with the summer heat. Was a Bill Elliott fan and only recently used his T-shirt in the garage. I had no idea how serious the fans were and how much they spent on souvenirs. I like the road courses and the last dozen laps at Daytona but my short attention span and poor math skills makes the series too complicated.