Silicon Valley is a young white boys club - BOX

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
Wacky overgeneralizations/oversimplications abound in this thread. Here's the simple fact. Asians are dramatically overrepresented in the higher education and tech in California. Blacks and Mexicans are dramatically underrepresented in both those areas. The reasons for that are obvious, systemic and not going to change overnight just because we wish it so. It will take generations. But it isn't because whitey is standing on the necks of the blacks and the mexicans.
 

Reli

Well-known member
There are less under represented minorities with those degrees/skills then white/asian, so at some level it's also a problem of smaller candidate pool.

+1

If you want more women, blacks and hispanics in tech, then tell them to study tech. Good luck with that. Most women aren't interested in tech, and don't spend as much time tinkering with computers as boys do. God forbid that different genders tend to have different interests.

And as for blacks and Hispanics, they don't go to college as often as whites & Asians do. And when they do, they don't study tech as often as whites and Asians do. From what I've seen, they usually major in business related fields.

Is the OP proposing that we just grab women, blacks and hispanics who never studied or worked in tech, and just hire them out of good will?
 
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budman

General Menace
Staff member
ISWYDT. :thumbup

hey wait... I got soul power..:afm199

Maybe I don't because I don't have a clue what that means...:laughing

It is an interesting phenomenon that so many white people are racist against white people. At least it feels that way at times. Is it a kin to make up sex???:p
 

russ69

Backside Slider
Wow, I hope you were drinking when all that flashed through your head. It really sounds a bit schizophrenic. You posted enough topics to start 5 new threads.
 

Junkie

gone for now
I recently graduated from Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, in Civil Engineering. I know that engineering is different from tech, but it's another white collar job.

Of the class of CEs, around 1/3 were women. CE is broken down to Structures, Geotech, Water, Transportation, and Construction Management is often done as well. Very few of the women went into Structures. It's the choice of the student on which way to go, and some are more difficult than others (Structures probably the most difficult). Women in the Structures program were on the order of 10%. Most of them seem to go into Transportation and Water. Similarly, the Hispanic students mostly went toward CM/General. I can't say about Blacks, there was only one in the class of ~120.

For whatever reason, it's primarily white and asian men who chose Structures. I work for a small company, it's overwhelmingly male and entirely white/asian (including mix of them).

From what I've seen, it isn't that underrepresented minorities and women are prohibited from going into Structural Engineering, it's that they choose not to. The women I have seen in it are quite capable, so I'm not sure why...
 

mlm

Contrarian
...I am angry that these tech people make so much money while the rest of us eek by on $40,000 per year.

I am a carpenter. I LOVE working on cool houses.

Do you hate doctors and lawyers too?

Welcome to the information economy, where the premium is on education. My workplace is dominated by foreign workers, with the typical applicant having a Masters degree from a well known US university (I can also name a top performer with just a GED). And the degree you got 10 years ago won't mean shit unless you're able to remain current.

They were telling people about the future of STEM 20 years ago when I was in college. I always liked working on cars, but knew it wasn't going to pay anywhere near what I do now. Lucky for me I really like what I do now too.
 

mlm

Contrarian
Wacky overgeneralizations/oversimplications abound in this thread. Here's the simple fact. Asians are dramatically overrepresented in the higher education and tech in California. Blacks and Mexicans are dramatically underrepresented in both those areas. The reasons for that are obvious, systemic and not going to change overnight just because we wish it so. It will take generations. But it isn't because whitey is standing on the necks of the blacks and the mexicans.

We live in Cupertino where the high rated schools actually have one of the lower per student funding rates in the region. The reason the schools score so high has more to do with culture than privilege. We live in a fairly modest neighborhood and most of our neighbors are asian/indian. My observation is that it's because most white people of the same demographic are more interested in a larger house or newer car than the quality of school they send their kids too.
 

Bronto

Well-known member
Another no asset, no profit dot com IPO. Does a room full of computer jockeys and another room full of servers that isn't profitable. The newest Billion dollar company ? Only to another larger overly priced tech company.
Stock Market is going to play it for a little while then dump it and let the stock zero out.
 

gnahc79

Fear me!
These Tech guys are lucky if they make it just five years. They suck, can't make it and need to be bought up or go away. They follow no codes. They get hacked, can't stop it, they do patches and updates every week like Adobe does, and they continue to be up held in high regard by "the home owner / home computer user." If I kept showing up after the job was done to do a "patch" I'd be in court and broke.

yes building a home is exactly like software development...I don't think you have fellow carpenters actively trying to break down whatever you just built.
 

scootergmc

old and slow
I apologize for being white. Please let me know where I should mail my monthly reparations check so that it may be fairly distributed.

BTW, where does the NBA mail their reparations checks since they are a racist organization?

The NHL of course.
 

augustiron

2fast 2live 2young 2die
The OP really got me thinking about this salary/race inequity so I decided to do something about it myself.
When I went to the strip club last night I showered all my cash on the non-white women and the other day I looked for a white freelance contractor to hire outside Home Depot, but there were none there, so I paid the dark guys I found $45/hr to do the labor so a white guy wasn't losing out due to underbidding.
:twofinger
 
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