Remembering the UpStairs Lounge: The U.S.A.’s Largest LGBT Massacre Happened 40 Years Ago Today

jdhu

Well-known member
Childish retorts like the silly ones about would-be martyrs and such? Like those? Yeah....

You're right, that's childish. I'll simply, and maturely, point out that "you started it" (including in yesterday's "Im out" discussion, but I chose to ignore it).
 

Lunch Box

Useful idiot
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Please go threadcrap elsewhere. This is a tragic event and should be remembered as such.
 

jdhu

Well-known member
You write them sincerely? :laughing

I'm a martyr? And belong to would be martyr club? :rofl:rofl That seems to be your role right now. The so called "voice of reason" being attacked by the so called "group of stone throwers". Only you're the instigator. The guy saying: "Throw stones at me, I can take it". I'm disappointed in you, you've got better inside you.

Kid, you're just another pothole in the road to progress.

I'll leave the thread, last post. Apparently, there are topics that are off limits, or as Lunch Box might agree, only certain opinions are allowed.

I didn't even express an opinion here. I read about the incident, and asked a question, since the OP is couched in language about homophobia.

You might think you and others are making BARF better by regulating speech, but you aren't.
 

teg916

Well-known member
I thought Jdhu posted good information. The first thing I thought with the way the Op wrote the post was that it was that the people were killed because they are gay. It doesn't make it any less of a tragedy if they were killed for other reasons, but it definitely changes the plot line.
 

afm199

Well-known member
I'll leave the thread, last post. Apparently, there are topics that are off limits, or as Lunch Box might agree, only certain opinions are allowed.

I didn't even express an opinion here. I read about the incident, and asked a question, since the OP is couched in language about homophobia.

You might think you and others are making BARF better by regulating speech, but you aren't.

O dear, you already promised to leave in Post #11
Ridiculous. Bait? I'll leave so that "je suis" doesn't have another martyr.

Does this mean you can't be trusted?

Responding to trolling and sniping is not regulating speech. I can't regulate your speech. I can certainly say what I want about it. If you don't want that, YOU are the one wanting to regulate speech.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
Wow, you guys are seeing homophobia everywhere these days aren't ya? JDHU made a valid point, i.e., that the title of the thread is misleading, i.e., implies that the reason the people were massacred was because they were LGBT, when it doesn't appear that it had anything to do with it. The fact that families were unwilling to claim their dead is horrific, but the murders themselves are simply the murder of 40 human beings. Sexual orientation was not why they were murdered.
 

afm199

Well-known member
Sexual orientation was not why they were murdered.

What is your reasoning there? How do you know this? Do you have ANY proof? Apparently an unsubstantiated statement that a suspect may have been gay is enough to convict him of the crime.
 

jdhu

Well-known member
O dear, you already promised to leave in Post #11

Does this mean you can't be trusted?

Responding to trolling and sniping is not regulating speech. I can't regulate your speech. I can certainly say what I want about it. If you don't want that, YOU are the one wanting to regulate speech.

Fuck, if you want me to leave the thread, then stop responding. I'm trying to go.

Correct, you have no power to prevent me from hitting the "enter" key. But, take a step back and look what just happened. It's the same thing as of late, trying to shout down some opinions (Lunch Box even came out and said some opinions shouldn't be allowed), using "homophobia" and other "think of the children" justifications.

Again, bye, please.
 

Lunch Box

Useful idiot
You're right. Homophobia didn't exist 40 years ago. I stand corrected. Have you even read the articles about it? If not, I would suggest that you do so.
 

Archimedes

Fire Watcher
What is your reasoning there? How do you know this? Do you have ANY proof? Apparently an unsubstantiated statement that a suspect may have been gay is enough to convict him of the crime.

I'm not the one penning an inflammatory title to a thread, so I'd turn it around, what, if any, evidence is there that this was a hate crime? I'm asking because I don't know, I'm assuming that the article linked by the OP is the most accurate information available.

BTW, I'm incredibly pro gay rights. I'm also incredibly pro 'accurate information as free from bias as possible'.
 

afm199

Well-known member
Fuck, if you want me to leave the thread, then stop responding. I'm trying to go.

Correct, you have no power to prevent me from hitting the "enter" key. But, take a step back and look what just happened. It's the same thing as of late, trying to shout down some opinions (Lunch Box even came out and said some opinions shouldn't be allowed), using "homophobia" and other "think of the children" justifications.

Again, bye, please.

I thought you put me on ignore. Did you lie? You've left four or five times now. Talk about theater.
 

Lucky Jones

Ride on #69
Thread title is the title of the LINKED ARTICLE, for those with comprehension problems.

It was a horrific event that reminds us of how much closer to acceptance the LGBT community has gotten.

The petty arguments remind me of how FAR we still are as a whole from that acceptance.

Terrible picture. Terrible that the unclaimed few weren't brought back to their families.

If a thread's title or subject matter is not to your liking, why post in it?
 

teg916

Well-known member
What is your reasoning there? How do you know this? Do you have ANY proof? Apparently an unsubstantiated statement that a suspect may have been gay is enough to convict him of the crime.

Seems like the burden of proof should lie with the person making the accusation. It very well could have been a hate crime, but claiming it was without any evidence is inflammatory.
 

corndog67

Pissant Squid
These guys are right (jdhu, teg, arch). You guys have an extreme focus on trying to find homophobia in everything, but the title of the thread is misleading.

What is happening to BARF? The cop haters are building up a head of steam. The sympathies for criminal minorities is real strong. Now, jumping (dogpiling) on another member here, for voicing his opinion about the title being misleading, which it is. You'll probably call him/them/me, homophobic, next.

Fuck, lighten up. This is the kitchen sink. There is no room here for lockstep Policital Correctness.
 
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