Registering a Race bike..
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moond0ggie
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I don't think anyone has ever been hassled for transporting a non-registered bike on a trailor or pick-up truck.
This provision just looks like another way DMV can collect a fee concerning a motor vehicle.
I would ignore this feature, the "Transportation Permit".
This provision just looks like another way DMV can collect a fee concerning a motor vehicle.
I would ignore this feature, the "Transportation Permit".
I just went to the DMV for the second time for my latest track bike. I brought the same paperwork, but they wouldn't issue me a transportation permit this time. The gal at the counter said that I'd need to go through Sacramento, even though she had found the stickers in the back office and had the CVC stuff that I'd brought sitting in front of her. She said that all she could do from her office was to non-op the bike. I paid my fees and as I left she told me not to forget my sticker. I looked at her and asked, "Are you sure...?" She told me just to take it and not worry about contacting Sacramento. Cost ended up being the same to me: $18, one time fee.
netjustin
garden knome
If a cop knows his/her stuff and really doesn't like your Bush = Hitler bumper sticker, there could be much more than $18 to settle.
Sounds like cheap insurance to me.
tlthehun
knight in dented armor
It's about the size of a California Green Sticker, 3 1/2" wide x about 2 1/2".
My first choice was to offer it up as an emergency bikini bottom for my gf or perhaps as that plus a couple of pasties to be fully legal
teeth) but my Mototote is setup so that the front wheel rides left side of the truck so I attached the sticker to the left fork slider (lower leg, not as in frame or axle slider). Given more patience, I might have decided on a different location but it's very unlikely that I'd ever swap to a more modern front end without getting the whole of the motorcycle that it is attached to and if I crash bad enough to need a new sticker, I'll have much bigger problems.
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Nice try, spammer. Buh- bye.
do we write the check simply to DMV ?
TheRiddler
Riddle me this.
Did this today. Filled out form 712 and handed it to the clerk. After 20 minutes of the supervisor in the phone with Sac, I got my sticker. $18, they said they treat it like an Off Highway Vehicle (OHV) in their system.
Noah's Dad
Benjamin Enzo's dad too!
DMV doesn't want my $18
So I tried to get the transportation permit last week at the DMV. A very nice employee and a just as nice supervisor spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what was needed (I brought the form filled out in advance but neither had seen it before). They found that the fee was $18 but they didn't have the sticker. They accepted my payment, gave me a receipt and said the sticker would arrive in a few weeks.
Imagine my surprise when I received a phone call today from the DMV. The supervisor was calling to tell me that the Sacramento office said they didn't have this type of permit and that they were issuing a refund for my $18. Apparently this isn't too high on DMV's list and since I've made a more than reasonable attempt to do what is right, I'll accept my $18 back and consider that I've done what I can to be in compliance.
Weirdest coincidence...as I was talking with the DMV representative I was attending a track day at Infineon: looking at my bike that, of course, was transported in the back of my truck.
So I tried to get the transportation permit last week at the DMV. A very nice employee and a just as nice supervisor spent 20 minutes trying to figure out what was needed (I brought the form filled out in advance but neither had seen it before). They found that the fee was $18 but they didn't have the sticker. They accepted my payment, gave me a receipt and said the sticker would arrive in a few weeks.
Imagine my surprise when I received a phone call today from the DMV. The supervisor was calling to tell me that the Sacramento office said they didn't have this type of permit and that they were issuing a refund for my $18. Apparently this isn't too high on DMV's list and since I've made a more than reasonable attempt to do what is right, I'll accept my $18 back and consider that I've done what I can to be in compliance.
Weirdest coincidence...as I was talking with the DMV representative I was attending a track day at Infineon: looking at my bike that, of course, was transported in the back of my truck.
Sammy
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I printed out the form from the DMV website and took it to the redwood city DMV last week. They told me they had never heard of this form but after some supervisor conversation and book reading in the back they popped out with the sticker. Paid my $18 and was on my way 15 minutes later.
abhijitz
Radiuz
Ernie - Did you ever do this one? I have an MSO for my new R6. Not sure if i want to go for title as i do not have brake lights, mirrors & stuff.
Also, do anyone give insurance on MSO? I at least need theft insurance (not liability). And, do 49-state emission mileage thing rule is also applicable for this particular permit? My bike only has 900 miles and i dunno yet if its 49-state or 50-state
Also, do anyone give insurance on MSO? I at least need theft insurance (not liability). And, do 49-state emission mileage thing rule is also applicable for this particular permit? My bike only has 900 miles and i dunno yet if its 49-state or 50-state
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afm199
Well-known member
Nope, too much trouble.
abhijitz
Radiuz
Hooray ! Got my transportation permit for my MSO 2011 R6 today. Now i can get theft insurance on the bike .. What a sigh of relief.
I went to register the new to me Ninja 250 today and presented Form 712 for my R6. They did some searching in their rulebook, and had to go to the locker room to get a 3$ printed permit for me, the sticker looks so old :laughing ....
Charge : 18$
I went to register the new to me Ninja 250 today and presented Form 712 for my R6. They did some searching in their rulebook, and had to go to the locker room to get a 3$ printed permit for me, the sticker looks so old :laughing ....
Charge : 18$
LongGoneJohn
Gone
Why are people buying this transportation permit thing? Did you do it because you needed some kind of "registration" to insure your non-vin'd frame?
If not, it seems like a huge waste of time. Just non-op it and be done?
If not, it seems like a huge waste of time. Just non-op it and be done?
abhijitz
Radiuz
I have a MSO, VIN is stamped on the frame. Not planning to register the bike, too much hassle of inspection and sh!t. You non-op a pre-registered bike, not an MSO one. This permit will let me transport the bike legally.
I dont know if you can get a transportation permit for a vehicle with no VIN (Form 712 needs VIN# to be entered)
On my Ninja 250 i am carrying up-to-date registration, so am good there.
I dont know if you can get a transportation permit for a vehicle with no VIN (Form 712 needs VIN# to be entered)
On my Ninja 250 i am carrying up-to-date registration, so am good there.
JP, there are times when law enforcement feels frisky in pulling over a pickup truck which is happily barreling down the freeway to the race track. Sometimes, the happy racers turn ugly and guess what, said LEO will ask you for your DL and registration, if that passes and said driver still has attitude, guess what LEO going to check next? That's right, driver will then hear, Sir can I please see the registration on that bike and thus the cat and mouse game begins. Driver becomes humble and obliging, LEO is on the scent to write something.
Now I personally have been asked for registration on my bikes back in the day and was asked to slow down and good luck in my races, but I do know of several racers who had mega attitude and were DUI (not alcohol) but did not get busted for that. They received a speeding ticket and the motorcycles were impounded.
FWIW
Now I personally have been asked for registration on my bikes back in the day and was asked to slow down and good luck in my races, but I do know of several racers who had mega attitude and were DUI (not alcohol) but did not get busted for that. They received a speeding ticket and the motorcycles were impounded.
FWIW
LongGoneJohn
Gone
JP, there are times when law enforcement feels frisky in pulling over a pickup truck which is happily barreling down the freeway to the race track. Sometimes, the happy racers turn ugly and guess what, said LEO will ask you for your DL and registration, if that passes and said driver still has attitude, guess what LEO going to check next? That's right, driver will then hear, Sir can I please see the registration on that bike and thus the cat and mouse game begins. Driver becomes humble and obliging, LEO is on the scent to write something.
Now I personally have been asked for registration on my bikes back in the day and was asked to slow down and good luck in my races, but I do know of several racers who had mega attitude and were DUI (not alcohol) but did not get busted for that. They received a speeding ticket and the motorcycles were impounded.
FWIW
I'm just not sure that transporting a motorcycle in the bed of your truck qualifies it as being "on the roadway" thus required to have a transportation permit. An open trailer? Maybe I could see that, but the bed of your truck? I mean, fuck, that'd mean technically I'd need a permit to transport a frame in the bed of my truck. That's not correct.
I am not doubting johnny law getting a little dickish and making a point of it -- and the transportation permit making that process easier, I'm just not so sure it needs to happen??? He can run the VIN and see it's PNO'd and it's not on the roadway so what the hell does he care? Ya know? Then again, $12 is cheap insurance I suppose?
TheRiddler
Riddle me this.
I believe the bed of a truck does qualify as on the road way. The frame example doesn't quite work since a frame is obviously not a motorcycle.
From the DMV's website:
California law requires vehicles to be currently registered if they are driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways at any time during the registration period.
Non-operational means that the vehicle will not be driven, towed, stored, or parked on public roads or highways for the entire registration year.
http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/fast_facts/ffvr01.htm
The off-highway permit lets you transport it on public roadways legally in an open container. PNO does not. If you have an enclosed trailer/van I imagine you'd be fine.