Next R6 and R1 to be triples
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Yakoo752
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stangmx13
not Stan
i knew someone would call me out on not incl AMA in my thoughts, coulda put $$ on it thatd be u.
as it stands now, AMA is not a true test for a manufacturer's development skills. Yamaha would never develop a new bike hoping to get Hayes on it to win that 'ship; all their effort would go into WSBK/WSS.
but rly, thats just my opinion on that matter (AMA)... im not the one that absurdly wrote that Yamaha would be replacing the R6 & R1.
:laughing:thumbup
true, Duc garnered a ton of US market share using GP exposure without winning anything
. but there is something to be said for the factories actually doing development in a racing series. they tend to skip out pretty quick (as seen in WSBK) after introducing a new bike, but at least they did something.
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kevin 714
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i knew someone would call me out on not incl AMA in my thoughts, coulda put $$ on it thatd be u.
as it stands now, AMA is not a true test for a manufacturer's development skills. Yamaha would never develop a new bike hoping to get Hayes on it to win that 'ship; all their effort would go into WSBK/WSS.
but rly, thats just my opinion on that matter (AMA)... im not the one that absurdly wrote that Yamaha would be replacing the R6 & R1.
:laughing:thumbup
true, Duc garnered a ton of US market share using GP exposure without winning anything
yamaha doesnt have a wsbk team.
Carlo
Kickstart Enthusiast
I was going to mention that.
Laverda made a version of their 1000cc triple with the two outer pistons 180 degrees out from the center one. Don't know if they included a counter balancer, but probably not.
I don't think that engine lasted too long before they switched back to 120 degree offsets between each of the three pistons.
And let's not forget that MV did very well in GP racing with triples.
stangmx13
not Stan
exactly! why bother making a new superbike/supersport if u arent going to race it as validation... and how can u afford that if u cant even race your current bike that actually won a bunch.
russ69
Backside Slider
No, the Laverdas did not have counterbalancers but were fairly smooth. They switched back and forth with the crank layouts, both were good engines. The strong point of a triple is that it can be narrower than a four. That will help with top speed.
stangmx13
not Stan
:laughing preaching to the choir, well me at least
unhinged
unsatisficed
Yami and triples isn't speculation, they announced it, just not a specific bike. The concept display had a bike frame with handlebars which implies FZ but the reasoning works for any of the bikes.
Triple should give you better low down torque than the 4 while revving much more than a twin. And should cost and weigh a bit less than a 4. So all in all seems to make more sense for a street bike.
A triple can work for any type of bike so I can imagine them wanting to standardize on that. It's what I would do (maybe not dirt bike). Like Duc sticks with the twin on everything.
For racing: motogp is different enough anyway, and if Duc can race twins then so can triples.
deanzaZZR
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75cc's?
Yakoo752
USN
I'm sorry I love me some AMA racing!
I do agree with you that I don't forsee Yamaha dumping an I4 and replacing it with an I3 especially not in moto racing. Just doesn't make sense. Especially when you are talking about a bike that has 5 yrs of development in it and is a very successful bike on the grid.
You can't say the AMA has no talent in it... even if you remove SBK (all those has beens :laughing)
Rispoli just last weekend raced BSS was it, with Swan Yamaha? Started P25 finished 10th and set fastest lap? No talent there at all :laughing
agreed - and this is the level you develop at. Unfortunately, with the FIM rules the way there are it doesn't make sense for ANY factory to race anything other then a 4cyl.
I do agree with you that I don't forsee Yamaha dumping an I4 and replacing it with an I3 especially not in moto racing. Just doesn't make sense. Especially when you are talking about a bike that has 5 yrs of development in it and is a very successful bike on the grid.
You can't say the AMA has no talent in it... even if you remove SBK (all those has beens
:laughing)Rispoli just last weekend raced BSS was it, with Swan Yamaha? Started P25 finished 10th and set fastest lap? No talent there at all :laughing
agreed - and this is the level you develop at. Unfortunately, with the FIM rules the way there are it doesn't make sense for ANY factory to race anything other then a 4cyl.
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rapidrobbie
Ride Fast Take Chances
Disalvo had a few dnfs this year.I have ridden many triples,the big triumphs are too heavy and the chassis is poop,the smaller triumphs are better,but the r6 is waaay better,why ruin a good bike.For a streetbike or adv bike sure,a triple is fine.
nebulous
Well-known member
Kawasaki comes out with a competitive 600 in the $6K range and dominates the us market.
tonedeaf
have tires will ride
Dr. Evil
Mother of God.
I'm pretty sure that was the case with the cross-plane crank in the R1...
Lucky Jones
Ride on #69
redlines at 200,000 RPM
The ladies might like that.....most dudes as well.
"It kinda tingles"
Sharky
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Human Ills
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Bigger bore to take advantage of 5 valves per cylinder?