Next R6 and R1 to be triples

yodaisgod

KHAAAAAN!
yep, Yamaha is going to abandon all they've learned in GP w/ their big-bang I4 and their world-champ R1 and R6s to make a bike that no one would race (professionally) :rolleyes.

+1 to rapidrobbie. the FZ's, maybe. the R6/R1, no way in hell.

No one?! Yeah, no one races triples professional. I'm sure Jason Disalvo would love to speak to you about that next time he's in the bay area.

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Forget about a whole series sanctioned around a triple. :laughing
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Instead of "no one", why not say "hardly anyone" or "not a lot of teams would want to race"? :thumbup

Perhaps Yamaha wants a new challenge and feel they've done all they can with inline-4's based on the current governing rules? Who knows?!

I'd welcome another sport bike triple into the mix.
 

aszrael1266

Resident Squid
yam going to triples, honda going to V's whats left for kawi and zuk to do? it would be cool to see a rotary in a bike again.
 

russ69

Backside Slider
yam going to triples, honda going to V's whats left for kawi and zuk to do? it would be cool to see a rotary in a bike again.

Yes Suzuki made a rotary touring bike and Kawasaki has made just about every configuration you can imagine.
 

Aereon

Huffy Rider
It's a great day in motorcycling, just shows that competition has made Yamaha look for innovations, could be an interesting few years for moto's.
 

stangmx13

not Stan
No one?! Yeah, no one races triples professional. I'm sure Jason Disalvo would love to speak to you about that next time he's in the bay area.

Forget about a whole series sanctioned around a triple. :laughing

Instead of "no one", why not say "hardly anyone" or "not a lot of teams would want to race"? :thumbup

Perhaps Yamaha wants a new challenge and feel they've done all they can with inline-4's based on the current governing rules? Who knows?!

I'd welcome another sport bike triple into the mix.

valid.

Disalvo?!?... at least Davies put that bike on the box in WSS.

ya its def easier to rack up the wins when you arent competing against any other manufactures :laughing.

im all for trying new things and trying to build on a racing product within the rules. but, taking an obvious step backwards in development is silly.
 

clutchslip

Not as fast as I look.
I don't know if I believe this whole triple Yami thing, yet.


Bring back the inline 6!
And air forks and shocks like Ohlins now offers on "superbike" kits. :laughing
 

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yodaisgod

KHAAAAAN!
valid.

Disalvo?!?... at least Davies put that bike on the box in WSS.

ya its def easier to rack up the wins when you arent competing against any other manufactures :laughing.

im all for trying new things and trying to build on a racing product within the rules. but, taking an obvious step backwards in development is silly.


How is trying out a potential untapped market going backwards? Only 2 players are in the triple sport bike market, Triumph and MV Agusta. I know triples have been tried before. Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to go forward.

Well, there has to be a change in homologating rules in order for other manufactures to follow. And, the price point has to be right considering you can't get a brand new 600cc inline four for under $11k now. :laughing

Perhaps current rules restrict any more development and again, maybe Yamaha thinks they've done what they can within the current rules and pushing for innovation with inline fours isn't worth the headache?

Again...who knows?! Let's be excited about something different.
 

Ducky_Fresh

Treasure Hunter
Quit smoking crack.

All of the race series are around inline 4's. Sure, the triple would be legal at 675, but I doubt they'll do it. Breaking from the norm isn't their way of doing things except at the pinnacle, motogp..
 

Ducky_Fresh

Treasure Hunter
Sigh, it doesn't matter who has ridden shit. If it was so great, why aren't all 4 major manufacturers making them?

Sure, it has good top end speed, which the Triple showed at Daytona this year. But it still didn't match up strong enough, at least being produced by Triumph, against the R6 and GSXR platforms.
 
yep, Yamaha is going to abandon all they've learned in GP w/ their big-bang I4 and their world-champ R1 and R6s to make a bike that no one would race (professionally) :rolleyes.

+1 to rapidrobbie. the FZ's, maybe. the R6/R1, no way in hell.

really? You don't think Hayes would race a 3cyl? I bet you if Yamaha wants him to race 1... he will race 1.

valid.

Disalvo?!?... at least Davies put that bike on the box in WSS.

ya its def easier to rack up the wins when you arent competing against any other manufactures :laughing.

im all for trying new things and trying to build on a racing product within the rules. but, taking an obvious step backwards in development is silly.

seem to recall Dominguez (4 wins countless podiums) and DiSalvo (5 podiums + a win) being on the box just a few times this year... I guess AMA doesn't qualify as professional racing in your opinion?

I am not saying that Yamaha will start racing a triple.. they have obviously spent mucho $ getting the R1 as it stands today race ready.
 
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MysterYvil

Mr. Bad Example
Sigh, it doesn't matter who has ridden shit. If it was so great, why aren't all 4 major manufacturers making them?

Sure, it has good top end speed, which the Triple showed at Daytona this year. But it still didn't match up strong enough, at least being produced by Triumph, against the R6 and GSXR platforms.
Yup, base everything you believe (and spout) on racing results and hearsay, because what folks who have actually ridden streetbikes have to say is irrelevant. Bet you're a big NASCAR fan, too... :rofl
 

stangmx13

not Stan
How is trying out a potential untapped market going backwards? Only 2 players are in the triple sport bike market, Triumph and MV Agusta. I know triples have been tried before. Sometimes you have to go backwards in order to go forward.

Well, there has to be a change in homologating rules in order for other manufactures to follow. And, the price point has to be right considering you can't get a brand new 600cc inline four for under $11k now. :laughing

Perhaps current rules restrict any more development and again, maybe Yamaha thinks they've done what they can within the current rules and pushing for innovation with inline fours isn't worth the headache?

Again...who knows?! Let's be excited about something different.

i said "backwards in development", meaning racing development, ie going fast.
tapping into a potential market isnt backwards for business, but 'Win on Sun, Sell on Mon' only really works if you actually win. so rly, making a new unproven bike to replace one that did nothing but win is going backwards... and all this is exactly why i agreed w/ a few others in saying the FZ is a better candidate for a triple.

considering your two paragraphs about "current rules", im guessing u dont follow WSS or WSBK much? or Yamaha's current involvement in both?

Yamaha could make an R675 triple and they prob could win a bit with it (considering their chassis development is top-notch). but given that a few long-awaited updates to their R6 or R1 would probably produce the same bump in sales as developing an entirely new bike... it aint gonna happen. hell, maybe they'll make one of them, but they wont replace the R's.
 
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