Need input about "Social Distancing" ride
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Everyone is going to get it and die anyway soooo what’s the difference?
Hahaha...I find your trust in government competency as disturbing as C-19 or the financial ruin we're all about to experience.
Whammy
Veteran of Road Racing
"OMG grab the wife, kids and the dog, head for the hills the world is over."
The sky is falling!!!! puuuuullllease
That's what you sound like.
You cant preach that ohhhh your selfish shit to me or anyone else.
Its for the good of humanity yada yada yada.
Well there are those who don't march to your drum beat.
I'm indoors, and i wont try and keep the masses from doing the same it just don't work.
There are those who will do just that, and venture out.
Its on them if they get sick or hurt. It is what it is.
If they want to do it who are you or anyone else to try stop them?
Live your lives people, and worry about you, and your own.
There is no magic button that will make everyone stay inside, especially if there are no direct orders in the city or county that says you don't have to stay inside. Save your sanctimonious drivel for something else.
Back to the next episode of Sanford and Son. SMH:wtf
295566
Numbers McGee
That's how this shit spreads. FFS this really isn't that hard for people to understand. This is bigger than just "MUH FREEDUMZ" but you're right, people are going t do what they want to do anyway. And people will continue getting sick, and some will die, because some just wanted to do what they wanted to do. So glad you're here to rationalize their selfish behavior. :thumbup
It's a direct order from the state.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/u...attested-EO-N-33-20-COVID-19-HEALTH-ORDER.pdf
It reminded me of the great "nine most terrifying words" speech from president Regan.
But back to virus mania, sure, if everyone stays home for a month, we're going to save a lot of lives in many different categories, deaths that we accept and somehow reconcile as just being part of a robust modern economy.
I can support kicking the can down the road a bit to get a better handle on this, but sitting at home isn't a solution in and of itself, C-19 or some new mutation are here to stay, so at some point we need to make some tough and uncomfortable decisions about our path forward. The unintended consequences that result from the entire world ceasing all but essential purchases for a month, or longer will be mind numbing.
So your solution is to just let those that get sick die without any chance to live? Because that's where it's headed. The hospitals wouldn't be able handle the surge in patients.
gixxerjeff
Dogs best friend
Same here.
The stakes just seem a little higher than usual at the moment. They call them "accidents" for a reason.
That's all I was saying.
Frame Maker
Well-known member
Hey Surj, You should go back and re-read my posts. Although I did advocate for getting outside. I was pretty much neutral on the subject of whether that should include motorcycles, or not. I was just re-posting links to government website which indicated that state parks have remained open, including Carnegie OHV park. My interpretation, based on the on-line literature that I found, is that off-road riding seams to be allowed by the state of CA (at least for now). I'm not advocating riding either way. Just posting some information that I came across so that others can make their own decisions... and I see no connection to my previous accident. WTF(?)
Surj
Uneasy Rider
Juilian—among other things—you said:
Does that not jive with "promoting the idea that riding is ok right now?" It's almost verbatim.
I'm surprised you can't see where your accident comes into it. The line of "thinking" from people who can't see the difference between riding the twisties and vital transportation or simply getting outside seems to include the standard motorcyclist invincibility stuff: "Well, I'm a good rider, so I'll be fine."
Both your accident and mine are evidence to the contrary, as is the embarrassing percentage of plain dumb solo rider accidents.
More simply put: as a group, we motorcyclists overvalue and overestimate our skills/talent/awareness and think we'll be ok, but that is simply not reflected in the numbers. The potential cost of that misjudgment is much higher now, indefensibly so in cases of non-essential transport.
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Unfortunately the government SIP utopia some of you have fully embraced doesn't exist in a bubble. I said I support a short term SIP, but that doesn't mean its the best response and its certainly not sustainable. I can assure you the mood will change as layoffs, closed businesses, personal and federal debt mount ($1,000,000,000,000...I don't know how many zeros but no one sees a downside a trillion dollar handout?!?!), and thoughts of going through a unprecedented world economic depression become top of mind.
Maybe we cut the red tape BS and work on building a temporary infrastructure to support those that need to be hospitalized? We know too that generally it's seniors with underlying health conditions that are the primary deaths, so maybe we can invest in a super quarantine for that group? My point is, we need private sector type response that bureaucrats are wholly incapable of.
I'm just surprised that more people aren't questioning if this is the appropriate reaction for more than a week or two.
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Do the right thing for you. Do the right thing for me.
My suggestion is to do the right thing for everyone.. My riding skills are going to get rusty.
Doing the right thing for everyone will help cut down the infection rate... I am sure of that. So that is what I am going to do.
My suggestion is to do the right thing for everyone.. My riding skills are going to get rusty.
Doing the right thing for everyone will help cut down the infection rate... I am sure of that. So that is what I am going to do.
Frame Maker
Well-known member
Hi Surj, I was simply providing information, but okay, I see your point. Perhaps I should have been more clear by saying "I think getting out on a dirtbike is likely okay (allowed)... according to this literature from the state of CA that I just found on-line. Use this information at your own discretion" ...I thought I presented the information in a neutral context... but perhaps not. Sorry.
Projected number says its about 20,000 extra beds needed. It's not going to be feasible to build a temporary infrasture in that short amount of time.
And there are other shortages as well.. number of nurses, medical supplies, PPE, ect.
How about we take some of that trillion dollars and convert some existing commercial space? Throw some overtime money to the companies that make respirators? How about we utilize some nursing students and other peripheral staff that posses at least some knowledge that could help. How about we utilize technology to connect these helpers with real doctors? How about we accept the fact that it won't be perfect, but its a crisis. I'm not saying its easy or my ideas are sound, but there has to be a better path that balances human and economic interests vs. just accepting that hiding for undetermined amount of time and giving up on our economic future is the best course.
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LectricBill
Kicks Gas
I am having a quarantine party this weekend.
None of you are invited.
None of you are invited.
two wheel tramp
exploring!
:laughing:gsxrgrl