MOTOGP 2013, Round 2: COTA, Austin, TX 4/19-4/21

[cencalballer]

as long as cal is fighting competently with the top 5, tech trois has to be happy with him. unless he comes out and says "the ceo yamaha raped my grandmother and the bike puts my balls in a vise every time i get on the machine", they will try and hold onto him. also, dont mention the millions of euros he brings in from anglo companies advertising.

TEch 3 may be happy but is Yamaha? They are also gonna be looking at the future. Rossi is gonna retire soonish. Jorge doesn't know how much longer he wants to race and neither does Dani. Who else from Moto2 has run and kept up with MM on a regular basis? No one. So he's looking at a factory seat at yamaha or Honda. Yamaha would love to have an emotional rival of MArquez. And Cal doesn;t produce as much revenue for sponsors as many people think. He's not very popular outside of the UK it seems in comparison to many other riders including Johnny Rea.

 

[Spec-ECU]

Yamaha started investing in the future the moment they chose Lorenzo over Rossi. Best believe that Yamaha is still shaking their heads at Herve for the preemptive two year deal with Bradley Smith, so I'm in the camp that thinks that the first chance Yamaha gets at filling the second satellite Yamaha spot, they will take it, fuck all what Herve thinks.

Whether that's Crutchlow or not they're eyeing, I don't know. But looking at Pol is right in line with them investing in Lorenzo over Rossi; proven talent for their future.

 

[DaveT319]

Dani is still capable of winning a title, but the window is closing rapidly. The way Marquez is progressing, Pedrosa has to do it this year. After that, I believe that Marquez will overtake him and become the number one rider at HRC unless he aggressively fights him off and defends his position there, and I'm not sure he can do it. He is on the best bike, he still has the talent, but it HAS to be this year.

I don't think he's even the #1 rider at Honda this year. Marc has a win and a 3rd. Dani has a 2nd and a 4th. Marc leads Dani by 8 points after just 2 races.

And Dani's not going to win the championship this year. Last year was his best chance with Rossi still sucking on a Duc and Stoner on his way out. Now he's got Marquez on the same bike, Rossi back on a Yamaha, and Lorenzo looking as good as ever. I don't see him beating all of them often enough to get the title.

 

[sidewazzz]

with the schwantz/puig thing, i agree with schwantz even though it wasnt his place to offer conjecture. i agree with puig as well because he had nothing but facts in his rebuttal. but still, schwantz just addressed the elephant in the room. dani wont win. last year was his best chance and now he is fucked, unless marquez, lorenzo and rossi all suffer season ending injuries, which is pretty unlikely.

if anything, id like for this to be a good, healthy usa vs. spain rivalry in moto racing.....too bad we dont have anyone competitive in the top class

MM beats Pedro twice in a month and y'all already saying he's better Lol

 

[kevin 714]

same shit was said in 2008 when rossi was off the podium in race one, then beat by jorge in the next race...same stuff was said about dani and nicky in 2006.

dani isnt done yet.

 

[Kurosaki]

same shit was said in 2008 when rossi was off the podium in race one, then beat by jorge in the next race...same stuff was said about dani and nicky in 2006.

dani isnt done yet.

And 2009.

 

[kelsodeez]

dani has shriveled under the pressure of being in close proximity to riders with more talent than him before, and its happening again. he is done. he might win a few races this season, but his championship bid is over.

 

[Spec-ECU]

Re: Pedrosa.

Second half of least season was only last season ago, and Pedrosa's already written off? Damn. Homeboy can't win!*

(*pun...intended?)

 

[sidewazzz]

dani has shriveled under the pressure of being in close proximity to riders with more talent than him before, and its happening again. he is done. he might win a few races this season, but his championship bid is over.

you do realize that if Jorge goes down it's really up for grabs between Rossi and Dani right? I still think Rossi would win but Dani would surely have a good chance.

 

[sidewazzz]

Re: Pedrosa.

Second half of least season was only last season ago, and Pedrosa's already written off? Damn. Homeboy can't win!*

(*pun...intended?)

:rofl

 

[kevin 714]

http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429436

jerez

 

[DaveT319]

you do realize that if Jorge goes down it's really up for grabs between Rossi and Dani right? I still think Rossi would win but Dani would surely have a good chance.

So you're writing off Marquez as a contender? Youngest ever MotoGP race winner, won in just his second race, on the podium in each of his first 2 races. But it's between Rossi and Dani if JLo is out of it?

 

[sidewazzz]

So you're writing off Marquez as a contender? Youngest ever MotoGP race winner, won in just his second race, on the podium in each of his first 2 races. But it's between Rossi and Dani if JLo is out of it?

Writing him off? Wouldn't call it that but I certainly wouldn't put him up with ranks of the big dogs when he is still failry unproven. Yes he finished 3rd and has a win on a 1st time track. He's been in the show for a nano second compared to the rest. My money is on guys I KNOW will be there not something that may fade or break underpressure.

 

[DaveT319]

Ok, I see what you're saying, but I also don't think you can discount this kid. He is FAR from unproven. 125 Champion. Moto2 champion last year (and would have won the year before if he hadn't been so stupid at Philip Island). And he's now a race winner in only his second race at the top level. True, we don't know how he'll do over the course of a season yet, but at the same time we DO know how Dani does over the course of a season, and usually it is buckle to the pressure or get hurt. So I think if you're hypothetically remove JLo and more or less count out Marquez from the possibilities, then at this point you're only left with Rossi, cuz it probably won't be Dani.

 

[Kestrel]

so thats y the press conference only has 4 riders.

who the hell invites Jarvis and the COTA Prez to the press conference :facepalm

So you're writing off Marquez as a contender? Youngest ever MotoGP race winner, won in just his second race, on the podium in each of his first 2 races. But it's between Rossi and Dani if JLo is out of it?

As Moto matters so elequently pointed out, Marquez's early victory has a lot to do with Austin coming so early on the calendar. Had it been later in the season, odds are he wouldn't have won til much later.

 

[Spec-ECU]

As Moto matters so elequently pointed out, Marquez's early victory has a lot to do with Austin coming so early on the calendar. Had it been later in the season, odds are he wouldn't have won til much later.

+1

Marquez's win at COTA only tells me that the young one learns quick, which is a plus on a circuit when all of the grid has had no established data.

Qatar, on any given season, is never indicative of a season's plot. And frankly, I'm just relieved that round's over with this season given how unbelievably dusty the track got DURING the race. Fifth year of following the sport and I've never seen it that bad, GP or WSBK.

 

[Tharkûn]

I would believe the 'learns quick' theory if none of those guys had that private test there.

It was certainly a track that favored Honda, but he smoked Dani straight up.

 

[DaveT319]

Qatar, on any given season, is never indicative of a season's plot.

Just as a note, in the 6 years where Qatar has opened the season, 3 times the winner there has won the 'ship, and two other times the eventual 'ship winner was 2nd at Qatar. The only anomaly was when Rossi finished 5th there but won the 'ship.

 

[Spec-ECU]

So the Qatar round has a 50/50 success rate at determining the season's champion? That's about as successful as flipping a coin. :laughing

 

[DaveT319]

If you just look at the winner, yes. But if you go with the top 2, then it's 86%. Which means statistically the 'ship winner this year will likely either be Lorenzo or Rossi. And I'd put $20 on it being one of them vs. the field.