Home security cameras

ontherearwheel

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Home security camera systems are nearly worthless. It's just alot of equipment and configuration for something that doesn't really provide much value. What's it going to do for you? Maybe catch a blurry image of an unknown package thief that you can upload to BARF to show your outrage? Burglary is extremely rare, all the more so when you consider that consumer electronics aren't really worth much anymore. Your average hood rat already owns a PS4 and a 52 inch TV.

On my home I have several fake cameras mounted, mostly to deter some idiot which was leaving cigarette butts around my driveway. You can get most of the value of the cameras by putting up fake ones.

Well......depends........if nothing ever happens......sure it could be considered worthless......but consider the recent home invasion in Texas......men broke in......tortured the Dad in front of his 7 year old, then held the 7 year old underwater in front of his dad........

Or more recent in the shotgun thread.......if the neighbor taking the first swing was caught on video.

Video evidence is hard to disprove.

CCTV is really for providing video evidence after something has happened unless the system is being actively monitored by a person.

I've install a lot of CCTV when I was in the field installing security systems. The only times something was stopped real time using CCTV was when the system was actively monitored........all other times.....the video was used after whatever happened as proof.

Got a emergency call once to put in a covert CCTV system in the lunch room of some high executives at VISA cause someone was stealing their lunches out of the refrigerator. Covert means hidden.

Couple days later, got a call to come get the equipment, the thieves were caught. Story goes that the VISA security was questioning the janitors about the thefts and they were denying it was them. The head of security then ask them to explain the video of them going into the refrigerator.

Video evidence is hard to beat.
 
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mercurial

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see above.

Your story doesn't make sense. The neighbor admits that he accidentally ran into your wall. It's a civil infraction, not criminal. What does showing the video footage to cops do anything for you?

I didn't say that there was never an instance where cameras are useful, I said it was such a rare occurrence in personal residences that it doesn't merit the effort/cost of installing cameras.
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
The best residential home security camera video I've seen for nighttime footage was the Ring Floodlight Camera. It provided video which was clear enough to positively identify the suspect from, which is really the whole point of having video. Most all systems provide good daytime video, but have nighttime video that leaves much to be desired. It's either too dark to ID anyone, or uses infrared, which is equally hard to ID anyone. The ring floodlight camera was pretty good at night.

In the case I was involved in, the suspect went through an unlocked vehicle, but didn't likely take anything from the one on video. However, there were multiple thefts on the same night, on the same street. Once the suspect was identified, he was later contacted and found to be in possession of stolen property. So he was arrested, and neighbors recovered stolen property, based on video from the Ring Floodlight a neighbor had installed.
 

Agent Orange

The b0y ninja
The best residential home security camera video I've seen for nighttime footage was the Ring Floodlight Camera. It provided video which was clear enough to positively identify the suspect from, which is really the whole point of having video. Most all systems provide good daytime video, but have nighttime video that leaves much to be desired. It's either too dark to ID anyone, or uses infrared, which is equally hard to ID anyone. The ring floodlight camera was pretty good at night.

In the case I was involved in, the suspect went through an unlocked vehicle, but didn't likely take anything from the one on video. However, there were multiple thefts on the same night, on the same street. Once the suspect was identified, he was later contacted and found to be in possession of stolen property. So he was arrested, and neighbors recovered stolen property, based on video from the Ring Floodlight a neighbor had installed.

How sensitive is it? I want to place it by my front door but I get alot of vehicular and pedestrian traffic (I live in a corner house). My front door is about 15-20' away from the sidewalk.
 
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bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
How sensitive is it? I want to place it by my front door but I get alot of vehicular and pedestrian traffic (I live in a corner house). My front door is about 15-20' away from the sidewalk.

I don't have one, so I don't really know. I have some Blink wifi cameras, and you can adjust the sensitivity on those. I'm betting you can also adjust the ring sensitivity. I like my Blink cameras well enough. I like that there are no monthly fees. Ring charges small monthly (or annual) fees for cloud storage.

I can really only vouch for the nighttime quality of the Ring Floodlight Camera being the best I've seen for identifying people at night.
 

B-mtrd

drtm-B
I have started looking at security cameras for the house. We have had reports of thieves around the neighborhood and even though we leave our dog in the house during the day I want something else.
I'm in the socialist state of Massachusetts so getting a shotgun will take a while.

I've looked at some options and I like so far the Arlo and the Nest cameras. I prefer something easy to install also. (Expensive option)

Or should I just get one of those dummy cameras from home depot and hope they act as a deterrent?

We're keeping the doors locked, when the wife is gone she leaves the 80lb dog inside the house and we try not to leave stuff around the house and store as many things as possible in the basement.

Suggestions?
 

mean dad

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There is an existing thread about home security cameras on the front page of KS right now.
I'm sure all your questions have been answered.
 

Sharky

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Seems like as long as your neighbors don't have have big dogs, having a big mean sounding dog is some of the best deterrence out there.
 

ABC

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I have had the nest and arlo, ring, and a few different kinds. Arlo is cool for battery, 100% wireless. Overall I like the nest
 

Joebar4000

Well-known member
Home security camera systems are nearly worthless. It's just alot of equipment and configuration for something that doesn't really provide much value. What's it going to do for you? Maybe catch a blurry image of an unknown package thief that you can upload to BARF to show your outrage? Burglary is extremely rare, all the more so when you consider that consumer electronics aren't really worth much anymore. Your average hood rat already owns a PS4 and a 52 inch TV.

On my home I have several fake cameras mounted, mostly to deter some idiot which was leaving cigarette butts around my driveway. You can get most of the value of the cameras by putting up fake ones.

Totally disagree. Wish mine had been running this weekend (see thread on shotguns I started). When the cops showed up, the first thing they asked was if it was caught on the (obvious) camera I had on my front porch.

Sadly, I'd just switched routers and hadn't gotten around to reconfiguring it, so, it caught nothing.

They also strongly recommended getting a restraining order, and getting more cameras, and that even if we weren't home, video footage would suffice to prove a violation.

We also managed to chase off a burglar next door, because in a weird fit of coincidence, an arborist was canvassing the neighborhood, and made the mistake of wandering around our house and looked every bit like he was casing the joint. I called the Sheriff from work, where I could see what was going on on my phone, and they showed up and disturbed the burglar next door.

Absolutely worth it. And modern cameras are far from blurry...

FWIW, I use a bunch of Dlink cameras, some with local recording for convenience, all else goes to my own website and phone.

And yes, they are now reconfigured for the new router... phew...
 

enki

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Your story doesn't make sense. The neighbor admits that he accidentally ran into your wall. It's a civil infraction, not criminal. What does showing the video footage to cops do anything for you?

I didn't say that there was never an instance where cameras are useful, I said it was such a rare occurrence in personal residences that it doesn't merit the effort/cost of installing cameras.

How does it not make any sense that he has to pay for repairs instead of me?

I should add that said neighbor has engaged in ongoing harassment since he was arrested for selling coke and this provided evidence for a restraining order.
 
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mercurial

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Lol ok I will concede a smidgen here.. if you know that your neighbor is a drug dealer that you ratted out, or is otherwise prone to violence and aggression, you might want a security camera rolling :laughing I will agree to that 100%.

I will say that these use cases are a bit different than the average person here, who don't appear to have known neighborly issues.

@Enki I didn't say that your neighbor shouldn't pay you. You're also adding information that you didn't present earlier. Based on your earlier post, you made it sound like a random accident that the neighbor was trying to dodge responsibility for.
 

enki

Well-known member
Lol ok I will concede a smidgen here.. if you know that your neighbor is a drug dealer that you ratted out, or is otherwise prone to violence and aggression, you might want a security camera rolling :laughing I will agree to that 100%.

I am very proud to say I stand up to fucking coke dealers. :thumbup
 

tzrider

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Staff member
How sensitive is it? I want to place it by my front door but I get alot of vehicular and pedestrian traffic (I live in a corner house). My front door is about 15-20' away from the sidewalk.

I have three. You can tune the area they monitor, the distance they trigger at and the size of the object that will trigger them (squirrel vs human).
 

m_asim

Coitus Infinitum
The best residential home security camera video I've seen for nighttime footage was the Ring Floodlight Camera. It provided video which was clear enough to positively identify the suspect from, which is really the whole point of having video. Most all systems provide good daytime video, but have nighttime video that leaves much to be desired. It's either too dark to ID anyone, or uses infrared, which is equally hard to ID anyone. The ring floodlight camera was pretty good at night.

In the case I was involved in, the suspect went through an unlocked vehicle, but didn't likely take anything from the one on video. However, there were multiple thefts on the same night, on the same street. Once the suspect was identified, he was later contacted and found to be in possession of stolen property. So he was arrested, and neighbors recovered stolen property, based on video from the Ring Floodlight a neighbor had installed.

Now you post your reply! :|

Costco had a deal on them floodlight cameras two months ago :(
 
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