first crash yesterday on 9 and now Bikey needs help!

[ST Guy]

Contorting yourself and making a knee touch the ground does not a good rider make.

Whatever kind of riding you do, leave the ego behind. Don't worry what you look like, don't worry about what the other kids are doing. Focus on improving yourself.

+ a whole bunch. I know guys who can ride circles around most of the posers out there hanging way off and dragging their knees. Just ride your own ride. Not someone else's ride.

And when you find your mind getting distracted, slow down or stop until you can focus again at the task at hand.

 

[masameet]

You're pretty lucky. Not many people can ride into a hillside without significant injury.

I'm hosting a cone practice on Sunday, June 8. Come up for that.

 

[sleepy_head]

I think ppl are taking me wrong. I don't have the desire to show off anything - not to even think of dragknee or even think it's neccessary to do so. All I"m saying is that I've never thought that I would be ready for the trach so soon because that is the impression I have when thinking about the track: ppl going fast, leaning way more than I could..etc.
And really I've not pushed my limit at all.
I probably go back to ride with my friends - just 1,2 other ppl who stick around me to lead and sweep

 

[Charmed]

Try and throw out your incorrect assumptions about "the track". Go to a Keigwin or Z2 "Novice School" and experience it for yourself. If you like riding, you'll LOVE the track. Its all the good stuff about sportbike riding minus the cars, trees, mountains and radar guns.

I don't know this for a fact because I haven't ridden with you, but you probably ride straight up and down through the corners at this point, so you have TONS of tire available for your cornering pleasure. Lance Keigwin always says that instead of running off the track, you can likely just lean it over farther:thumbup

Let me inspire you with some EBoz lean:

 

[Roadstergal]

And really I've not pushed my limit at all.

If you crashed, you pushed your limit. The right corrective action, IMO, is to raise it, and my contention is that it's a lot safer - and more effective - to work on that in a controlled environment where you have instruction, rather than ride twisties on group rides and try to pick up something there.

If you don't want to do a track day, that's not the only option. If you've taken the BRC, there's the ERC. There's Rich Oliver's dirtbike schools. Etc.

you probably ride straight up and down through the corners at this point

And don't look through them.

 

[EbolaMonkey]

Hi,

To be perfectly honest.. And having seen you join in a couple of group rides with us before -- I don't think you are ready for the twisties. If you feel every time you go out twisty riding, that you are in danger of crashing, you should re-think going out on a non-newbie-ish group ride. I think you need some more seat time before you hit the twisties again. This is just IMO, and I feel bad about your crash.. Esp. since it could have been easily prevented.

+1 , i've actually told ahn this many time before and i practically begged her to come practice a little more with me and my buddies in a p-lot. However, she didn't feel like p-lot practice was fun or necessary for her anymore, so we just went without her and I just gave up on asking.

i also feel that the front suspension of the gs500 is way too soft - even for the street. but yea riding a bike with a suspension thats not setup for you really affects your handling.

i'm not suprised at all that this crash happened - but i guess its good that shes not hurt and the damage to the bike is minimal.

well, as anh always says to me when i give her any sort of advice,

"Whatever..."

When i first started riding, i used to think that riding was an awesome experience that everyone who think they might like it, should definitely learn. Unfortunately, now i don't hold that same belief. There is a lot more to riding than driving a car and there are a lot more factors that can affect the outcome of a road trip on a bike than in a car. Hence, there are a series of responsibilities that one will have if they choose to ride a motorcycle - especially if they know they will be riding aggressively. These would include things such as a obtaining/maintaining a certain level of skill (training/practicing), riding within ones limits, gearing up, and maintenance.

If an individual tends to ignore these things.. then... i dunno.. riding.. at least aggressive riding may not be the wisest decision.


OK, now im just rambling.

good luck

 

[ThumperX]

+1 , i've actually told ahn this many time before and i practically begged her to come practice a little more with me and my buddies in a p-lot. However, she didn't feel like p-lot practice was fun or necessary for her anymore, so we just went without her and I just gave up on asking.

i also feel that the front suspension of the gs500 is way too soft - even for the street. but yea riding a bike with a suspension thats not setup for you really affects your handling.

i'm not suprised at all that this crash happened - but i guess its good that shes not hurt and the damage to the bike is minimal.

well, as anh always says to me when i give her any sort of advice,

"Whatever..."

When i first started riding, i used to think that riding was an awesome experience that everyone who think they might like it, should definitely learn. Unfortunately, now i don't hold that same belief. There is a lot more to riding than driving a car and there are a lot more factors that can affect the outcome of a road trip on a bike than in a car. Hence, there are a series of responsibilities that one will have if they choose to ride a motorcycle - especially if they know they will be riding aggressively. These would include things such as a obtaining/maintaining a certain level of skill (training/practicing), riding within ones limits, gearing up, and maintenance.

If an individual tends to ignore these things.. then... i dunno.. riding.. at least aggressive riding may not be the wisest decision.


OK, now im just rambling.

good luck

Many points made
Parking lot practice-Learning to handle tight situations at slow speeds is the ultimate foundation for any moto sport-when flying airplanes we were drilled mercilessly on slow speed maneuvers, same with boating. a true test of any rider is his/her ability to handle the machine at excruciatingly low speeds
Then...add a bag of sand onto the parking lot and practice braking, turning, etc on the sand. Then... have your friends throw balls at you while going through your paces this will build your reflexes better than anything.
Then...hit the road and some twisties. Practice slow and smooth slow and smooth look through your turn if you can't see through it you're going to fast.
Every ride should be a practice ride and learn from the more skilled riders you're riding with.

Ahn sounds like you are taking accountability AND learning to fix your bike :thumbup

 

[masameet]

I've found that becoming a good rider means acquiring and continuing to better one's riding skills and knowledge, along with other qualities, like developing mental toughness and dispensing with bad habits and thinking.

Giving in and giving up by "target fixating" and going for a preventable crash instead of shrugging off the possibility by turning the head to where you want to go ... that's an attitude adjustment. And not a small one.

 

[Sharky]

Yeah, go fly around public roads during the learning process and bounce off a car instead:rolleyes

Sorry. I'm not saying there's something inherently wrong with riding around the streets, but maybe Hwy 9 on a "group ride" isn't the best place for you to crawl out of the cradle.

You can putt around the track in a "C" group with some track day organizers...and you'll STILL learn way more in 1 day about controlling your bike into, during and out of corners than you will in many weekends of riding in packs on roads like 9.

As far as parts, I fully second Ron Ayers. Good prices, factory fit, finish, paint and decals.:thumbup

Sorry, but someone that bins under stress situations needs not to be on the track yet. If so, let me know the day, so I can not be there.

All this "take it to the track" crap has limits.

How many C groups are packed full of folks that have no business being on a track or bin it and wreck the session for everyone else?

 

[Volcomism]

Try and throw out your incorrect assumptions about "the track". Go to a Keigwin or Z2 "Novice School" and experience it for yourself. If you like riding, you'll LOVE the track. Its all the good stuff about sportbike riding minus the cars, trees, mountains and radar guns.

+1 on ZoomZoom Trackday "Novice School" . Lets go !

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242681

 

[Sane_Man]

Then... have your friends throw balls at you while going through your paces this will build your reflexes better than anything.

This sounds vaguely familiar. :laughing


youtu.be/0iXP9yoc4VY

Sleepy_Head, did you take the MSF course?

 

[Cycle61]

I'd rather just ride it naked.

Sooooo many things I want to say about this.....But I won't be a ink

 

[CraigB]

Sure, sounds good, bring it.:shocker

Oatmeal and I were no where in sight, we we're a few miles ahead. Yep, all my fault.:thumbup

Ahhaaaa - that's why I "sweap" when I ride with you bats outta hell :rofl I could possibly be the biggest pu**y on BARF but I ride my own ride :thumbup

Anh - sorry to hear about your incident; I've been there :|. Glad to hear you're gonna jump back on the bike when it's road safe :thumbup Target fixation and the insecurity in the bikes capabilities is a biotch; it's something I've been working on too :thumbup

 

[Charmed]

Sorry, but someone that bins under stress situations needs not to be on the track yet. If so, let me know the day, so I can not be there.

All this "take it to the track" crap has limits.

How many C groups are packed full of folks that have no business being on a track or bin it and wreck the session for everyone else?

I dunno:dunno I don't ride in C group:laughing

Still seems like a better life saver and learning experience than riding 9

 

[mikhail]

First of all, Anh, I'm glad you weren't too seriously injured. Even though you may feel ok, you may want to see your doctor to get checked out and possibly a chiropractor to make sure nothing is out of alignment.

Now this next part is nothing personal...but this is the third Noob+Group Ride=Crash thread I've seen in as many weeks. I hope this isn't a trend that will continue throughout the summer

 

[Knight R1d3r]

Hi Anh, I'm glad to hear that you're okay and wearing your gear when you went down:thumbup. BTW, that's a nice picture of you without the gear at the beach:cool. Use this incident as a learning experience. Think about what you can do in the future to prevent making the same mistake. Don't be afraid to ask people for advice. There's a wealth of knowledge out there about what to do in certain situations.

I would offer to help work on your bike but I'm not comfortable working with a male:nerd.

 

[Volcomism]

I would offer to help work on your bike but I'm not comfortable working with a male:nerd.

Dave said different.

 

[Volcomism]

Ok now.. on a serious note:

You already know what you did wrong. It may take a week to get parts and properly fix your bike. If you already have someone to work on it, awesome. If not, show off those pics Mortifer had, and I'm sure someone will offer assistance. :thumbup

As for the other ppl on here: Read the OP. She asked about fixing her bike: not a crash analysis.

"I'm looking for help to fix up my boy. I don't care about the fairing. I kinda like to have a naked bike so I think he's ok without clothes for now. I just want to fix up the mirror, blinker and the headlight so the bike is at least reliable to run again.
It's a suzuki gs500f, 04 model. If anyone know where/how to get the parts cheap, please let me know. "

 

[Prabhat]

Ahhaaaa - that's why I "sweap" when I ride with you bats outta hell :rofl I could possibly be the biggest pu**y on BARF but I ride my own ride :thumbup

Anh - sorry to hear about your incident; I've been there :|. Glad to hear you're gonna jump back on the bike when it's road safe :thumbup Target fixation and the insecurity in the bikes capabilities is a biotch; it's something I've been working on too :thumbup

I guess, I was the least experienced rider on that ride....on my 1 month old SV. I made it safely by riding within my limits...even if that means I am sweeping the group. I thank russell for riding slow with me.

I have been on 2 group rides with Craig. He has alwasy ridden with me, no matter how slow I go. Thanks to you Man. :thumbup

 

[Xenos]

Ok now.. on a serious note:

You already know what you did wrong. It may take a week to get parts and properly fix your bike. If you already have someone to work on it, awesome. If not, show off those pics Mortifer had, and I'm sure someone will offer assistance. :thumbup

As for the other ppl on here: Read the OP. She asked about fixing her bike: not a crash analysis.

"I'm looking for help to fix up my boy. I don't care about the fairing. I kinda like to have a naked bike so I think he's ok without clothes for now. I just want to fix up the mirror, blinker and the headlight so the bike is at least reliable to run again.
It's a suzuki gs500f, 04 model. If anyone know where/how to get the parts cheap, please let me know. "

I know exactly where you are coming from and I think that has been already addressed.
Anh, it sucks that since you have a vagina men are willing to bend over backwards for you, something many people on this forum don't get. Many people that contribute valuble information about riding and technique that I know you don't listen to. Everytime me and Ebolamonkey see you we tell you things that we know you need to learn from EXPERIENCE, something we never got, it was all trial by fire for us. I crashed on 9 once too, it sucked and it shook me up bad but I learned that if I don't master the basics I have no place being in the hills. So when you talk to us, don't discard our advice, it may not be nice to hear but we do it because we don't want you to get hurt, and we are glad you didn't, this time....
That being said I think that there is a lot that needs to be said here in terms of riding ability and practice. Find just one person and get to know your bike. Really get to know your bike. If you can't control it then you have no business being on it.
So heal up, fix that bike and master the basics.