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alien
Only in the KS do you have a thread about regular or premium gas that gets side-tracked into car/bike break-in periods and who is a pussy enough to adhere to them and if you don't you must be riding a ratbike. :laughing

Hey who said only a pussy would maintaining their bike :facepalm
 

AbsolutEnduser

Throttle Pusher
Ey Kuro

You really never took your bike over 4000 RPM or whatever the manual says the limit is for the first 1000 miles?

I did actually (once). It was my first bike and anyway I was slow so whatever.

So what.. anyway..

You use the clutch every single time you shift gears?

duh yeah!

I only tried (not sure if I succeeded) a clutchless upshift, with a full desire to break my box should it not suceed, about a year later when I read it about it from the famous 250 racer/winner, Paul (from SF)

for my riding for example a clutchless gearchange is pretty pointless.

Only in the KS do you have a thread about regular or premium gas that gets side-tracked into car/bike break-in periods and who is a pussy enough to adhere to them and :laughing

:laughing

p.s. I filled with Chevron premium. And how are you???
The point was to see if there will be a difference from the JoNameBrand|Arco premium. Unfortunately it's not so cold in the Bay Area today so I could not see a difference in the cold start. Maybe it *is* better.

I’m just glad someone in this world reads a fucking owners manual even if it’s for spite. ..

.. Read that too..admittedly mostly on the first bike and first cars :)
 
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Junkie

gone for now
Of course it’s more than engineers. Lawyers and bean counters certainly have a hand in it.

Are some break in procedures that some bikes use (I swear I’ve seen some go as far as 1200 miles) a bit excessive and overly cautious? Absolutely. Should there be at least some break in followed? Yes as well.

I’ve built a few engines over the years. I’m know there’s a few people on this board who also have and they will agree with the following. Engine builders don’t report to lawyers. They don’t care about bean counters either. What they do care about is not having the engine they built blow up prematurely. The worst thing you can do for a fresh engine is subject it to maximum cylinder pressures and piston speed in its first several hours of run time. So we avoid that by gradually increasing engine load, varying RPMs, and all that stuff that you see get translated to “not to exceed xxx RPM in first xxx miles” in an owner’s manual after lawyers and bean counters take our recommendations and probably triple them for good measure.

But make no mistake. There very much is a break in. And it shouldn’t be taken with a grain of salt.
I've talked to other engine builders (who seem to know what they're doing) who have said that constant RPM is the worst thing that you can do to a new engine but :dunno but that taking it to the track day 1 is perfectly fine (just take it easy the first session)
 

Kurosaki

Akai Suisei - 赤い彗星
Only in the KS do you have a thread about regular or premium gas that gets side-tracked into car/bike break-in periods and who is a pussy enough to adhere to them and if you don't you must be riding a ratbike. :laughing

Business as usual. :cool
 

295566

Numbers McGee
I've talked to other engine builders (who seem to know what they're doing) who have said that constant RPM is the worst thing that you can do to a new engine but :dunno but that taking it to the track day 1 is perfectly fine (just take it easy the first session)

I thought that was how you were supposed to break in a new cam? Flat tappet lifter cam, that is.
 

fast4d

Well-known member
Iirc, the reduction in California from premium's 92oct rating to 91oct was because they couldn't keep up with the production that would allow the higher number. They talked about the increased number of cars at that time that required premium as a factor that required the reduction. It was something about the "purity" that was required to produce the 92 level.

who told you this?

it has to do with patents, greedy and results not paying up for use for patented formulas.
 
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Junkie

gone for now
I thought that was how you were supposed to break in a new cam? Flat tappet lifter cam, that is.
Not sure, and he may have meant after the car was delivered to the customer - I believe the specific case I remember involved someone who was going to get on the freeway and drive it down to LA or something. I assume cam break-in had already been done before ti left the shop.
 
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