Colony Collapse = California's Fault

Climber

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From what I can see, more than 50% of the almonds ($4.3 Billion in 2017) get exported, so we're draining out limited water supplies to grow a crop that doesn't stay in this nation.

It does appear that the Almond industry is on the offensive to reduce the perception of their water consumption...
 

Brokenlink

Banned
From what I can see, more than 50% of the almonds ($4.3 Billion in 2017) get exported, so we're draining out limited water supplies to grow a crop that doesn't stay in this nation.

It does appear that the Almond industry is on the offensive to reduce the perception of their water consumption...

Good clean almonds
 
I'm hoping that this year, or next, is when lab grown meat becomes commercially available.

ground "beef" is already on the market and being mass produced

Beyond is "supposedly" commercially viable at retail
Impossible "should" be going retail this year.
 

afm199

Well-known member
I drank some almond milk recently, it wasn't half bad. And despite the huge water use needed to grow almonds, I bet it's less than what's used for cattle operations.

One almond represents one gallon of water.

One Big Mac represents around 600 gallons of water.

Both are incredibly water intensive.
 

mean dad

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ground "beef" is already on the market and being mass produced

Beyond is "supposedly" commercially viable at retail
Impossible "should" be going retail this year.

I picked up some Beyond Beef hamburger patties at Winco last week. I threw one in the freezer because they told me not to, and I want to see if it degrades the taste/texture.
 

cfives

Well-known member
Why are you hoping for that?
I’ll be choosing real meat over lab meat, just because

I'm not a vegetarian, but almost never eat real meat. I like the Beyond and Impossible burgers, but wouldn't mind trying an animal based, and lab grown product. There are none currently available that I am aware of, but people are working towards that goal.
 
My challenge for the fake meats are to make them healthier

right now sodium and fats aren't all that lower than traditional meats although the supposed environmental impact is way less.
 

Climber

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"The bigger the beast, the more food, land and water is needed to produce the final edible product, resulting in higher greenhouse-gas emissions. A cow takes 8 kg of feed to produce 1 kg of beef, but only 40% of the cow can be eaten. Crickets require just 1.7 kg of food to produce 1 kg of meat, and 80% is considered edible."
Source
2 Billion people in the world knowingly eat insects as a primary source of protein. That number is going to increase.
 

Reli

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bruceflinch

I love Da Whores
At this rate, all of our food will be developed in vats sometime in the next 40 years.

Soylent Green! :laughing

IIRC The Mad Cow Disease was created by putting beef into cow feed.

I wonder if Soylent Green will cause Mad People Disease :dunno
 

CoorsLight

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Soylent Green! :laughing

IIRC The Mad Cow Disease was created by putting beef into cow feed.

I wonder if Soylent Green will cause Mad People Disease :dunno

It's generally called CJD when humans contract it from eating cannabalistic cows. It also occurs in human cannibals, and in that case is generally called kuru.

Yes, soylent green would cause mad cow disease in humans. You cannot reduce the infectiousness of prions by cooking, even under pressure.

I heard that a new case of CJD in the US was just reported in the last couple weeks.

Our beef supply is so tainted, that almost no other country will import our beef. In fact, when exporting material for human consumption such as pharmaceuticals, you need to have accompanying documentation to show that no ingredient of that material was derived from US beef or US beef byproducts.
 

Mike95060

Work In Progress
It's generally called CJD when humans contract it from eating cannabalistic cows. It also occurs in human cannibals, and in that case is generally called kuru.

Yes, soylent green would cause mad cow disease in humans. You cannot reduce the infectiousness of prions by cooking, even under pressure.

I heard that a new case of CJD in the US was just reported in the last couple weeks.

Our beef supply is so tainted, that almost no other country will import our beef. In fact, when exporting material for human consumption such as pharmaceuticals, you need to have accompanying documentation to show that no ingredient of that material was derived from US beef or US beef byproducts.

Us beef is tainted by what? IIRC feeding cows to cows was not a big thing in the US.

That said, I actually have a relative (moms cousin I think) who died from CJD in the late 90's. I'm pretty sure he spent a bunch of time in the UK.
 

CoorsLight

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Us beef is tainted by what? IIRC feeding cows to cows was not a big thing in the US.

That said, I actually have a relative (moms cousin I think) who died from CJD in the late 90's. I'm pretty sure he spent a bunch of time in the UK.

The US beef industry is not regulated to prevent prion disease from beef. Other countries, notably the UK, implemented strict controls to prevent the feed practices that resulted in so many deaths.

The disparity is why US beef is refused by many countries, and why other US industries have to jump through hoops to export random stuff, needing to prove their export was never in contact with US beef or derived from a product of the US beef industry.
 

bruceflinch

I love Da Whores
It's generally called CJD when humans contract it from eating cannabalistic cows. It also occurs in human cannibals, and in that case is generally called kuru.

Yes, soylent green would cause mad cow disease in humans. You cannot reduce the infectiousness of prions by cooking, even under pressure.

I heard that a new case of CJD in the US was just reported in the last couple weeks.

Our beef supply is so tainted, that almost no other country will import our beef. In fact, when exporting material for human consumption such as pharmaceuticals, you need to have accompanying documentation to show that no ingredient of that material was derived from US beef or US beef byproducts.

Very enlightening, thank you.
I'm reducing my beef intake from twice a month to once a month, now.

We should write a new script to remake Soylent Green, Documentary Style.
 

bojangle

FN # 40
Staff member
2 Billion people in the world knowingly eat insects as a primary source of protein. That number is going to increase.

Not if we kill them all off first!

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The US beef industry is not regulated to prevent prion disease from beef. Other countries, notably the UK, implemented strict controls to prevent the feed practices that resulted in so many deaths.

The disparity is why US beef is refused by many countries, and why other US industries have to jump through hoops to export random stuff, needing to prove their export was never in contact with US beef or derived from a product of the US beef industry.

Yeah, the US really needs to get it's act together in this regard.
 
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