Butte County, CA - Mask Free

tzrider

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Marcoose said:
And 'prove' and 'register' are somewhat optimistic. Tests aren't very reliable. There's loads of falses. What the test proves is you took a test on that day, and the words negative or positive were written on a piece of paper. We're weeks if not months away from a 99.9% reliable test.

And the opinions above regarding a vaccine are plausible. We may never get one. Our best bet is better treatment, followed by herd immunity. The latter will take months also. And hopefully the virus won't mutate and all knowledge and immunity is for nothing.
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Yeah, I was careful with how I worded that because you're exactly right.
 
Bowling4Bikes

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norcalkid said:
My opinion, you are just seeing the results of a lot more testing being available now. The number of cases detected when there were only enough testing for symptomatic hospital admits and now when hundreds of people are being tested a day is apples and oranges. I don't disagree there has probably been a spike but I just think we are able to catch a lot more cases now. If were doing 10/20/50 times as many tests a day now I would think the number of detected cases would increase and continue to increase as there is more testing.

Anyway, I still wear a mask and use hand sanitizer when I get back in car. I'm still required to wear a mask at work. And yes, I live and work in Butte county.
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:thumbup would you say others in your county are following similar self-prescribed safety protocols?

You may very well be right. even in June, tests per day went from ~50 to ~200 from the beginning/end of the month. And their cases rose ~4x in that span.
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Marcoose

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Bowling4Bikes said:
Thanks. I’m not sure that county data, specifically butte county, necessarily trends the same as state data. I am not discounting your source. Perhaps our data is different because of the scale in which the data is presented?
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Sure, the bulk of the crisis is in the south, especially and sadly among non-whites and vulnerable. Hopefully it doesn’t get to Butte County, or at least not that bad, but one can’t cut off a county. It’s going to get way worse before it gets better.
 
norcalkid

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The lowest mask usage I have seen in Butte county was today at Chico Harley Davidson. They had a swap meet type event. I have not seen a lower percent of mask use since this whole thing started. I would be surprised if 1 in 10 were wearing masks.

Also hit Winco and Walmart today. 100% masks on and mandatory.
 
GAJ

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norcalkid said:
The lowest mask usage I have seen in Butte county was today at Chico Harley Davidson. They had a swap meet type event. I have not seen a lower percent of mask use since this whole thing started. I would be surprised if 1 in 10 were wearing masks.

Also hit Winco and Walmart today. 100% masks on and mandatory.
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Doesn't bode well for Sturgis.

Can get an idea of the demographics from this 2018 photo I grabbed off the web.

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Climber

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Here is their flyer to vendor's:
All establishments shall do the following:



Read and become familiar with the CDC Guidelines:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nCoV/index.html



Read and become familiar with the State of South Dakota Back to Normal Plan

https://doh.sd.gov/documents/COVID19/COVID_SDPlan_BackToNormal.pdf



Post signage at all entrances into all buildings and tents that states:

“In an effort to reduce the likelihood of transmission of the COVID-19 Virus, it is recommended that no more than ______ people should be in this facility. It is your personal choice and responsibility if you enter. You should maintain social distancing of 6’ between parties including at the register”

The recommended capacity number can be calculated using the City’s temporary vendor license application. This number is half of the fire capacity limit calculated using the International Building Code.

Ensure hand sanitizer is available at your establishment and is required to be used frequently by employees and available for guests.

Ensure all employees are provided with masks and promote their use whenever employees are not able to maintain a social distance of at least 6’ from other

In addition, every vendor, malt beverage licensee and liquor licensee shall:

Ensure any employee who does not feel well or exhibits any symptoms of the COVID-19 virus is sent home and encouraged to consult with their health care provider

Encourage patrons to not congregate within 6 feet in groups of 10 or more

Ensure heightened sanitization of restrooms and all door handles and frequently touched surfaces

Ensure they follow the State of South Dakota Department of Health Retail Business Checklist (attached) on a daily basis


In addition, every restaurant, food court, coffee house, bar, brewery, winery, club, cafe, and other similar place shall:



Ensure any employee who does not feel well or exhibits any symptoms of the COVID-19 virus is sent home and encouraged to consult with their health care provider

Consider moving tables, booths, and other furniture intended to accommodate on-site consumption so that each party is 6 feet apart.

Encourage patrons to not congregate within 6 feet in groups of 10 or more

Not allow the use of buffets or self-serve food areas

Ensure all video lottery machines are spaced at least 6 feet apart and are thoroughly sanitized after each use

Ensure that each table or booth is completely sanitized after each use

Ensure heightened sanitization of restrooms
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Looks like a big CYA document.

In that crowd, the likely viewpoint will be 'only pussies wear masks'.

I wonder what percent of the city's revenue comes from this one event? (Read it makes up 95% of the city's annual revenue)
 
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GAJ

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Climber said:
In that crowd, the likely viewpoint will be 'only pussies wear masks'.
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No kidding.

They really should cancel as at the moment they are doing pretty well relatively speaking despite having very lax restrictions.

"In 26th place, South Dakota came in right in the middle of the pack for pandemic-related deaths per 100,000 people with 14, according to health care business website Becker’s Hospital Review."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...covid-19-stats-arent-good-claimed/5505749002/
 
bojangle

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Climber said:
Here is their flyer to vendor's:

Looks like a big CYA document.

In that crowd, the likely viewpoint will be 'only pussies wear masks'.

I wonder what percent of the city's revenue comes from this one event? (Read it makes up 95% of the city's annual revenue)
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Those are pretty lax suggestions. They aren't even mandating masks. Even those suggested guidelines won't be adhered to. There will be transmission of infections. I hope this doesn't become a super spreader event.
 
bojangle

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GAJ said:
No kidding.

They really should cancel as at the moment they are doing pretty well relatively speaking despite having very lax restrictions.

"In 26th place, South Dakota came in right in the middle of the pack for pandemic-related deaths per 100,000 people with 14, according to health care business website Becker’s Hospital Review."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...covid-19-stats-arent-good-claimed/5505749002/
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I'm not so sure they are doing all that well, considering they rank 46 out of 50 in lowest population density. https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density
 
bojangle

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Climber said:
EAA OshKosh got cancelled back on May 1.
Different crowd.
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The Hollister Rally was canceled. Basically same crowd as Sturgis. However, the big difference is the state and the (thankfully) stricter California state requirements regarding covid.
 
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bojangle

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GAJ

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bojangle said:
Doesn't look like they're cancelling it.

With 100s of thousands that attend, how many do you think will be there who are shedding virus?
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It'll make Memorial Day and July 4th related spikes look like a walk in the park.

And, for the most part, those were localized to areas that went truly bananas on those days.

These folks will likely be coming from, what, all 50 States?

I'm guessing less international folks this year though.

So even if attendance is halved, that's 250k people.
 
Climber

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bojangle said:
Doesn't look like they're cancelling it.

With 100s of thousands that attend, how many do you think will be there who are shedding virus?
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Don't forget that it goes for 11 days (8/7-8/16) which allows for up to 3 generations of transmissions, many before symptoms start showing.

Then, there is the long ride home with many stops, shedding virus all the way home.

You're a pussy if you don't ride your Harley there, even if you like 2k miles away.
 
bojangle

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GAJ said:
It'll make Memorial Day and July 4th related spikes look like a walk in the park.

And, for the most part, those were localized to areas that went truly bananas on those days.

These folks will likely be coming from, what, all 50 States?

I'm guessing less international folks this year though.

So even if attendance is halved, that's 250k people.
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I did some calculations, based on the number of currently infected covid patients in the US, and the estimation that 35% of those are asymptomatic. Then calculated the percentage of possibly asymptomatic people as a percentage of the overall population, at 0.226%. Using that percentage, if we assume an attendance of 250,000 people at Sturgis, we can assume there will be about 565 asymptomatic people among that group, in attendance.

Hopefully my math was correct. Yes there are a number of assumptions in that estimate, but I was curious about estimating how many infected people might attend, while assuming symptomatic people would hopefully not attend.
 
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