And "Terror" strikes again in New York

[Reli]

Attacks on trains or trucks carrying hazmat, especially anhydrous ammonia, is probably the next big thing

 

[afm199]

Attacks on trains or trucks carrying hazmat, especially anhydrous ammonia, is probably the next big thing

Nasty stuff. I got exposed once. Fuck. I thought I had swallowed acid. (Which is basically the case.)

 

[clutchslip]

What is a tag-along immigrant and has it any part of that been officially announced ?

I thought he was here because of relatives. I would use the term for his actual group of immigrants, too, until I was clear how and what we can post without getting our lord and master angst. He has enough mush on his plate.

ABC - Saipov identified-

Saipov is from Tashkent, the capital city of Uzbekistan. He entered the United States in 2010 through the so-called Diversity Visa Lottery, a special program started in 1995 that according to the State Department hands out about 55,000 visas per year to applicants, most of them from countries that don't send many émigrés to the United States.

 

[i_am_the_koi]

Why is terror in quotation marks in OP???? Or is that a political question?

Because when I posted it they had not announced it as a confirmed "terrorist" attack.

 

[tuxumino]

note the divisiveness in the world may impact you at any moment in un thought of ways, stay alert, the world needs more lerts.

 

[Schnellbandit]

Attacks on trains or trucks carrying hazmat, especially anhydrous ammonia, is probably the next big thing

That is more difficult than you think and many of the routes are planned to avoid the maximum possible casulalties possible. We've had accidents with those types of materials and vehicles before, not too much terror.

They've found the nearly perfect way, trucks that anyone can get for which there is no practical defense, why change up?

No doubt, part of the plan is to get ordinary people to fear every time they see a truck where people gather.

Expect to see barriers going up in lots of locations.

How do you stop the person who rents a truck or goes on CL and buys one with a design to kill a lot of people? No real way to prevent it and once they start rolling, no effective way to stop them before the damages are done.

As you are out and about, look at how many trucks you see and just what do you think now that this has happened? Maybe you don't think anything different but let this happen again or a few more times and you will. When you sit at the street cafe and a rent-a-truck stops right in front of you, something other than a bagel delivery won't enter your mind?

 

[antidote]

Interstate 580 doesnt move. Altamont is a sitting duck. Just a few craters in the road is all it will take.

8 people dying is tragic of course, but, 250k people unable to make it to work for a week is apocalyptic.

 

[afm199]

You want terror? Find railcar shipments of fracked crude. They were going to bring it to the East Bay but too many people protested. The shit boils off propane and ketones at room temperature. There was one train wreck that killed forty some people in a town. All it takes is a derail of one shipment in an urban area.

 

[rsrider]

You want terror? Find railcar shipments of fracked crude. They were going to bring it to the East Bay but too many people protested. The shit boils off propane and ketones at room temperature. There was one train wreck that killed forty some people in a town. All it takes is a derail of one shipment in an urban area.

Nasty stuff. I got exposed once. Fuck. I thought I had swallowed acid. (Which is basically the case.)

Fun Facts!

 

[V4]

Crazy stuff these days.

I posted a awhile back about home grown terrorists not really connected to ISIS but by name only in which isis will take credit if carnage does happen but have no idea who the person is

Some just want recognition

 

[CoorsLight]

Fun Facts!

OK, I can't hold it anymore. Ammonia is a base. Opposite of acid.

 

[afm199]

OK, I can't hold it anymore. Ammonia is a base. Opposite of acid.

Yes, but NH3 in water produces an interesting reaction, no? Which is what happened when I breathed it.

Water loses a proton and becomes an acid, if I understand correctly.

Both NH3 and H2O are amphoteric (they have H atoms that can be donated as H+ ions and thus act as acids and lone-pair electrons that can accept an H+ and thus act as bases). Thus, either NH3 or H2O can act as an acid or a base. When NH3 is mixed in H2O there is a competition for the proton. (Not my words)

 

[cfives]

Ammonia in water deprotinates a small amount of water, giving ammonium (NH4+) and hydroxide (OH-). So you have a basic solution containing ammonia, a small amount of ammonium and hydroxide ions, and a many orders of magnitude lower concentration of hydrogen ions (H+).

 

[CoorsLight]

Yes, but NH3 in water produces an interesting reaction, no? Which is what happened when I breathed it.

Water loses a proton and becomes an acid, if I understand correctly.

Both NH3 and H2O are amphoteric (they have H atoms that can be donated as H+ ions and thus act as acids and lone-pair electrons that can accept an H+ and thus act as bases). Thus, either NH3 or H2O can act as an acid or a base. When NH3 is mixed in H2O there is a competition for the proton. (Not my words)

Where did you find these words? It sounds like someone doesn't understand how weak acids and bases work.

Water is amphoteric, but ammonia is always a base in a relevant pH range (at VERY extreme conditions it can act as an acid, but these conditions are exotic and highly energetic because nitrogen does not like to be negatively charged). In the reaction you desribe, ammonia reacts with water to steal a proton from the water. Ammonia acts as a weak base, and water acts as an acid since it surrenders the proton. Only at pH >~11.5, very basic conditions, will this reaction stop. The reaction yields NH4+ (ammonium cation, a weak acid) and OH- (hydroxide anion, a strong base). Hydroxide is what is responsible for the corrosivity of ammonia when it's exposed to moisture.

 

[AbsolutEnduser]

OK, I can't hold it anymore. Ammonia is a base. Opposite of acid.

:laughing :rofl rly :thumbup

Oh yeah BTW so they are installing concrete barriers on that bike alley in New York, already as of Thursday. There are many entrances to the alley which had been unprotected. Pretty weird if you ask me (that they weren't)

 

[afm199]

Where did you find these words? It sounds like someone doesn't understand how weak acids and bases work.

Water is amphoteric, but ammonia is always a base in a relevant pH range (at VERY extreme conditions it can act as an acid, but these conditions are exotic and highly energetic because nitrogen does not like to be negatively charged). In the reaction you desribe, ammonia reacts with water to steal a proton from the water. Ammonia acts as a weak base, and water acts as an acid since it surrenders the proton. Only at pH >~11.5, very basic conditions, will this reaction stop. The reaction yields NH4+ (ammonium cation, a weak acid) and OH- (hydroxide anion, a strong base). Hydroxide is what is responsible for the corrosivity of ammonia when it's exposed to moisture.

The interwebz, where else?

Thanks for clearing that up. It sure did burn.

 

[Eldritch]

Where did you find these words? It sounds like someone doesn't understand how weak acids and bases work.

Water is amphoteric, but ammonia is always a base in a relevant pH range (at VERY extreme conditions it can act as an acid, but these conditions are exotic and highly energetic because nitrogen does not like to be negatively charged). In the reaction you desribe, ammonia reacts with water to steal a proton from the water. Ammonia acts as a weak base, and water acts as an acid since it surrenders the proton. Only at pH >~11.5, very basic conditions, will this reaction stop. The reaction yields NH4+ (ammonium cation, a weak acid) and OH- (hydroxide anion, a strong base). Hydroxide is what is responsible for the corrosivity of ammonia when it's exposed to moisture.