2021 New Bikes and Updates

Johndicezx9

Johndicezx9

Rolls with it...
It's begging for a Baja kit to replace that fairing...

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SFMCjohn

SFMCjohn

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thanks for the Mr Cameron link ... :thumbup

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as an H-D engine, that's pretty crazy. :party

Boz said, “As a function of VVT, we have a super-broad powerband. People who ride KTM and BMW have said it feels more powerful than the competition.”

The 1250′s crankshaft has two crankpins, staggered at 30 degrees to each other. This reduces primary shaking force and spaces top dead center of the two cylinders (the rear is offset to the left) 90 degrees apart. A primary balance shaft deals with both shaking and rocking. A secondary balance shaft is located between the cams of the front cylinder, geared to one of the cam phasers. This shaft therefore gives a different vibration at idle, making the engine feel “alive,” but runs smoother at freeway speeds. Balance shafts save weight, for without them bikes would need heftier structure just to survive their own vibration.

Why not balance everything to zero?

Michael Carlin, Chief Engineer Powertrain, said, “In Milwaukee-Eight we intentionally kept some vibration, because otherwise it doesn’t feel right.”
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as always, lots of "feeling" with H-D ... :laughing:facepalm
 
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davidji

bike curious
KnifeySpoony said:
More power and less weight than a GS? Not what I was expecting at all.
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Price-wise the options seem to compare well with BMW too. I see $2600 extra for the Special with all the things except factory luggage. For BMW I'd expect 3 packages from $1200-$2500 with different, not totally compatible features, where I'd want two packages to get all the things including luggage.
 
mrzuzzo

mrzuzzo

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SFMCjohn said:
as always, lots of "feeling" with H-D ... :laughing:facepalm
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Anyone remember the backlash from the HD fanboys when Harley launched a watercooled motor on the V-Rod?

Can someone who's a hardcore H-D person tell us what the feel is like for this bike amongst the H-D community?
 
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KnifeySpoony

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davidji said:
Price-wise the options seem to compare well with BMW too. I see $2600 extra for the Special with all the things except factory luggage. For BMW I'd expect 3 packages from $1200-$2500 with different, not totally compatible features, where I'd want two packages to get all the things including luggage.
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As someone with a deposit in on a new R1250GS, it is an interesting competitor. However, I don't think I would abandon the gold-standard in the segment for a newcomer just yet. Maybe I'll regret it in a few months...
 
MikeL

MikeL

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mrzuzzo said:
Anyone remember the backlash from the HD fanboys when Harley launched a watercooled motor on the V-Rod?

Can someone who's a hardcore H-D person tell us what the feel is like for this bike amongst the H-D community?
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I'm by no means a hardcore HD person but I have a feeling that the backlash may not be as bad in this segment as it's not trying to pull hardcore HD folks.

They are not trying to say "Hey, you with the T-Bars on your Dyna! Come ride through Kenya on our new Harley!"

If I'm a hardcore Harley guy I just don't care as long as they keep making the bikes I enjoy as well. I think the backlash was the worry they were trying to replace what those guys rode with the V-Rod.
 
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davidji

bike curious
KnifeySpoony said:
As someone with a deposit in on a new R1250GS, it is an interesting competitor. However, I don't think I would abandon the gold-standard in the segment for a newcomer just yet. Maybe I'll regret it in a few months...
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Deposits are refundable, right? You can always take a test ride of other bikes that interest you, if you're concerned.
 
Kornholio

Kornholio

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MikeL said:
150HP isn't too bad either.
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Not at all. Isn’t that more than the current 1250GS puts out? I know it’s more than my 1250RS does.

KnifeySpoony said:
More power and less weight than a GS? Not what I was expecting at all.
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Indeed!

As for the vibration thing, since mostly non-pirate wannabe types will be eyeballing/buying this motorcycle, they should probably take a page from from KTM and BMW’s playbook and just reduce the vibration as much as possible. I don’t recall anyone complaining about smoothness on a GS. :laughing
 
VicTim

VicTim

VMCSF
It looks pretty awesome on paper. A lot better than I expected. I don't like the weird headlight and fairing though.
 
SFMCjohn

SFMCjohn

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mrzuzzo said:
Anyone remember the backlash from the HD fanboys when Harley launched a watercooled motor on the V-Rod?

Can someone who's a hardcore H-D person tell us what the feel is like for this bike amongst the H-D community?
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:thumbup

didn't mean to imply I didn't like the new engine ...
was just making a bit of fun of the typically (imo) H-D interface between engineering and marketing.
"it's gotta vibrate, or it won't "feel" right!" :toothless

also, like to think my stock '85 EVO makes 30 hp, so 150 hp is crazy. :x
I'd probably just hurt myself ... so--if we want to count me as a part of the HD community---
would say the feel is ... fear? :laughing:afm199

guess we'll see how may they make/sell ... :dunno
 
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NoobCorpse

NoobCorpse

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Here for my weekly segment of "let's pee on the new Multistrada": reviews and ride reports are in and folks are saying it's great when compared to a new GS but not the sporty road-focuses tourer the previous-gen owners were hoping for. Feels comfy / sporty / great all-rounder and a worthwhile competitor to the GS.. but I want my Pikes Peak version.

Also, Zack Courts', and other folks', reviews are saying about 170-175mi per tank, which doesn't surprise me at all based on previous Multistradas... so basically you'll be gassing up 60-70mi before your GS buddies.

If the detuned V4 for the Multi V4S gets that kind of range from its tank - wtf kind of range is the Streetfighter V4 getting, or do people not care about that kind of thing for a bike like that? :D :D :D

Give me a 17"-front-wheel'd Multi V4S with the Streetfighter V4 and I'll be happy with my 110mi-filled-to-dry fuel range. :laughing
 
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