S.B. 1316, Giving away Carnegie, Again - The Bill Had DIED, but will RISE again...

The Deanster

Well-known member
From what I understand what this does is allow the land to be sold if parks is "willing". Parks says they're not interested in selling but I suppose that if this passes a Governor or somebody else up the chain could force them to?
 

Surj

Uneasy Rider
Only thing we can do is vote them out of office if they vote in favor of the wealthy few's interests, rather than the majority of their constituents.

Not true. Many of us here have met with legislators and helped make stuff happen. I'm one of them, and I am neither wealthy nor a golfer. It can be frustrating, but you have to put in the work.

Besides, how's the whole voting them out thing working? :laughing
 

Whammy

Veteran of Road Racing
OK emailed the dishonorable Steve.
Reminded him to concentrate on making sure Bart never goes on strike again.
Keep those parks open or we'll ride on his land
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
here is how the voting has gone:

06/27/18 (PASS) Asm Accountability and Administrative Review 5 2 0 Do pass and be re-referred to the Committee on [Appropriations]
Ayes: Burke, Eggman, Frazier, Medina, Quirk-Silva
Noes: Lackey, Patterson
No Votes Recorded:

06/26/18 (PASS) Asm Water, Parks and Wildlife 8 6 1 Do pass and be re-referred to the Committee on [Accountability and Administrative Review]
Ayes: Carrillo, Chu, Friedman, Eduardo Garcia, Gloria, Kalra, Levine, Wood
Noes: Bigelow, Choi, Gallagher, Harper, Mathis, Salas
No Votes Recorded: Rubio

05/30/18 (PASS) Senate Floor 24 13 2 Senate 3rd Reading SB1316 Glazer et al.
Ayes: Allen, Atkins, Beall, Bradford, Dodd, Galgiani, Glazer, Hernandez, Hertzberg, Hill, Hueso, Jackson, Lara, Leyva, McGuire, Monning, Newman, Pan, Portantino, Roth, Skinner, Stern, Wieckowski, Wiener
Noes: Anderson, Bates, Berryhill, Cannella, Fuller, Gaines, Moorlach, Morrell, Nguyen, Nielsen, Stone, Vidak, Wilk
No Votes Recorded: De León, Mitchell

05/25/18 (PASS) Sen Appropriations 5 2 0 Do pass
Ayes: Beall, Bradford, Hill, Lara, Wiener
Noes: Bates, Nielsen
No Votes Recorded:

05/22/18 (PASS) Sen Appropriations 7 0 0 Placed on suspense file
Ayes: Bates, Beall, Bradford, Hill, Lara, Nielsen, Wiener
Noes:
No Votes Recorded:

04/24/18 (PASS) Sen Governmental Organization 7 4 1 Do pass as amended, but first amend, and re-refer to the Committee on [Appropriations]
Ayes: Bradford, Dodd, Galgiani, Glazer, Hill, Lara, Portantino
Noes: Cannella, Gaines, Vidak, Wilk
No Votes Recorded: Hueso

04/16/18 (PASS) Sen Natural Resources and Water 6 2 1 Do pass, but first be re-referred to the Committee on [Governmental Organization]
Ayes: Allen, Hertzberg, Jackson, McGuire, Monning, Stern
Noes: Stone, Vidak
No Votes Recorded: Hueso
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Origins of this

So disappointing to see my Senator on this letter.

Jerry Hill.
I have written him on every issue. Met with him at the Capitol.
Basically you get a smile and a F U in the end. :thumbdown

Saying that the State spent all this money on this... didn't we the USERS of the park system pay for it with our $$ and our tax $$$. :rant
 

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Dave Pickett

New member
SB-1316 Carnegie

Hello Everybody. As SB-1316 continues through the process, we are at a point that pressure needs to go the your Elected Assembly Person and State Senator ESPECIALLY if you live in Alameda County........... We need to keep up the pressure on Senator Glaser and Assemblywoman Baker. Anybody that rides at Carnegie and wants the expansion, then these two need to be buried in phone calls citing opposition and burn up their phone lines. Simple to do, just say your name, you live in the area (city and zip code) and you STRONGLY OPPOSE SB-1316. The need to hear a MASSIVE SPIKE in phone calls from the OHV community.

Call Glaser at 916-651-4007 Capitol office or 925-754-1461 local office &
Call Baker at 916-319-2006 Capitol office or 925-328-1515 local office or you can call both and say same thing. Be POLITE and Professional...........
I cannot stress enough that you make these calls.............. They will keep tabs on these calls and advise the member, so the more calls they get, they will KNOW that constituents are calling, thus they KNOW you vote in their district.

WE REALLY NEED TO POUND ON LOCAL LEGISLATORS TO LET THEM KNOW WE ARE FIGHTING BACK AND WILL NOT GIVE UP!

IF this Bill should pass out of the legislature, then we be asking for all to contact the Governor and ask him to VETO this bad bill.

D36's Lobby Firm, and other OHV lobby firms are working hard to kill this bill, but they need support from us, the user community.
Do it, or lose Carnegie's new 3,100 acres of new land YOU paid for!

Thanks! Dave Pickett D36 LAO
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Thanks Dave.

I will post a barf wide link to this post because it is time for action!!
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
AMA just issued a call to action with similar information as in post #27.
http://ama-d36.org/sb-1316-carnegie-bill-hearings-we-must-take-action/
I am going to call my assemblyperson (Kalra) shortly.

I am going to point out...

This bill promotes taking public park land from the state park system and putting it in the hands of a special interest group with no oversight of what their motives actually are.

Furthermore, the State park plans are already for this area to largely be a nature preserve, which is what the special interest group purports their mission to be. What they actually do is beyond our control. This benefits Garamendi and her friends, not the public.

Furthermore still, the Carnegie SVRA is in a unique location in that it is easily accessible to the bay area population, yet is remote enough not to impact residential populations.

Furthermore again, this is just the continuing creation of roadblocks by Garamendi and her friends, which is wasting hundreds of thousand of dollars. Garamendi and her friends seem to have limitless financial resources to create obstacles. The state and the OHV community do not.
 
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Butch

poseur
Staff member
Actually, I want to make my phone message as short as possible.

Something like...

this legislation proposes to take public park lands and put them in control of the private sector.

You are taking away our parklands.
"Preservation" is mispresentated; this area is already planned for, funded and managed as a preserve.

You are my representative, not Garamendi's, and are doing your constituents a disservice.
 
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budman

General Menace
Staff member
Called Jerry Hill.

Hope that folks get on it before the Uber rich take away a part of our Park system.
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
I just called Glazer's office and registered my opposition. It took 34 seconds.
 

Kurosaki

Akai Suisei - 赤い彗星
AMA just issued a call to action with similar information as in post #27.
http://ama-d36.org/sb-1316-carnegie-bill-hearings-we-must-take-action/
I am going to call my assemblyperson (Kalra) shortly.

I am going to point out...

This bill promotes taking public park land from the state park system and putting it in the hands of a special interest group with no oversight of what their motives actually are.

Furthermore, the State park plans are already for this area to largely be a nature preserve, which is what the special interest group purports their mission to be. What they actually do is beyond our control. This benefits Garamendi and her friends, not the public.

Furthermore still, the Carnegie SVRA is in a unique location in that it is easily accessible to the bay area population, yet is remote enough not to impact residential populations.

Furthermore again, this is just the continuing creation of roadblocks by Garamendi and her friends, which is wasting hundreds of thousand of dollars. Garamendi and her friends seem to have limitless financial resources to create obstacles. The state and the OHV community do not.

Yikes. I actually met that Garamendi lady when I was working on the Carnegie project when it was still in EIR phase. Came in my office and dropped a bunch of boxes of comment letters on me on the last day. You know... because that's what people do when they don't like your project. Wait til the very end of the EIR review period. : |
 

budman

General Menace
Staff member
Call!!!! Be polite and professional.
You will only get an aid in most cases.. that is OK. Your message will get through!!
 

Butch

poseur
Staff member
They mostly just score how many responses they get in support or in opposition.

You may have to work in a comment like “why would you support giving our state park lands to unregulated special interest groups like Celeste and the Haters?
Can I have an answer? Is that too much to ask?"
 
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Butch

poseur
Staff member
This is a bit I found, written by Diane Tweety, I think:

“Garamendi and Connolly want to take away our small 3,100 acre expansion. They have lined up congressional support to make new law because their challenge to the Environmental Impact Report for the Alameda/Tesla expansion was failing. They didn’t get what they want in court and so they just use their political muscle to get the law changed. They have offered up this legislation aimed at only this one issue.”...
 
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