input from any leo, pls?

nakedape

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Presumably the OP is aware of bias against sport bikes in the minds of some officers. Another factor is favoritism. Very hard to prove, but I was a witness to a younger driver getting short shrift in favor of an older local woman in a collision clearly caused by the woman.

OP, what make a model was the car and was the driver? I was called a year later by a lawyer for the older woman to check my recollection. It became a civil case. I’m sorry you seem to lack witnesses. Maybe put up an ad or poster in the area.

In the future, get a camera on your helmet. This would go a long way towards proven nag your case. That is a lot of cheddar for the hospital bill. Do you have insurance?
 
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fireblade929

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I had a wreck with a red light runner. SHe told me, my ex wife and the cop she wasn't paying attention and ran the red. Cop did NOT write any of that down. Later she apparently told her husband I ran the red. My insurance "experts" agreed since I hit her broadside instead of her hitting , and probably killing, me. Insurance company said they sent me a notice if I wanted to dispute it. Never got it. Found out 2 years later I was found at fault.
I was pissed. Make SURE the officer writes down ALL pertinent info including statements.

Mad

p.s.- she claimed to be a good Christian. Jeebus don't like liars...
that is what happened to me, my i surance said that the case will remain open in case liability comes back or something.
 

fireblade929

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I had a wreck with a red light runner. SHe told me, my ex wife and the cop she wasn't paying attention and ran the red. Cop did NOT write any of that down. Later she apparently told her husband I ran the red. My insurance "experts" agreed since I hit her broadside instead of her hitting , and probably killing, me. Insurance company said they sent me a notice if I wanted to dispute it. Never got it. Found out 2 years later I was found at fault.
I was pissed. Make SURE the officer writes down ALL pertinent info including statements.

Mad

p.s.- she claimed to be a good Christian. Jeebus don't like liars...
the officer lied to me at the hospital, the report was already on paper so when i went to the police station to give my side of the story, they said i could but that wouldn't change anything since the report was already out. so basicly my opinion didnt count at all. the cop took the lady's side.i didnt materat all.
 

fireblade929

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This is my thinking regarding your situation. Just because she initially "admits fault" doesn't mean she didn't get spooked and recant her story. Given that, and likely lack of any witnesses, officer has to go on the evidence he sees.

OP, did you hit the side of her car (fender/door) or the front (hood/bumper)?

i see your point, but why did the officer said she was at fault even tho the report HE wrote put me at fault? why did he lie to me?
 

fireblade929

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Nowhere in OP's story does it say anything about running the light. He said she turned, presumably after already entering the intersection, to avoid being stuck in the middle when it turned red, creating a gridlock violation. Because it wasn't mentioned anywhere, I'd assume the light was yellow, maybe even green, when she entered the intersection.

If the driver in front of OP ran the red, then by default OP would have run that same light as well, otherwise he would have stopped prior to executing his right turn at the light as legally required, and avoided the collision to begin with.

So, while you're correct, it doesn't apply to this situation at all.

the light was green, but there the traffic was stopped at the ped crossing so had she decide to kept going straight, she was gonna get cought in the middle of the intersection, she realized her mistake and turn right with no blinker.
 

fireblade929

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This is my thinking regarding your situation. Just because she initially "admits fault" doesn't mean she didn't get spooked and recant her story. Given that, and likely lack of any witnesses, officer has to go on the evidence he sees.

OP, did you hit the side of her car (fender/door) or the front (hood/bumper)?

the impact was between the door and the fender. i was just starting to make my right turn.
 

fireblade929

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Presumably the OP is aware of bias against sport bikes in the minds of some officers. Another factor is favoritism. Very hard to prove, but I was a witness to a younger driver getting short shrift in favor of an older local woman in a collision clearly caused by the woman.

OP, what make a model was the car and was the driver? I was called a year later by a lawyer for the older woman to check my recollection. It became a civil case. I’m sorry you seem to lack witnesses. Maybe put up an ad or poster in the area.

In the future, get a camera on your helmet. This would go a long way towards proven nag your case. That is a lot of cheddar for the hospital bill. Do you have insurance?
you know, that is the last thing i want to think happens, both the officer and the driver were white and im mexica . i dont wanna think it was cuz of that. what really pisses me off is that nobody cared about my side of the story, like i was convicted of a crime with out getting to court. if she told the officer she was at fault, should that be includedt on the police report?
 

fireblade929

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Presumably the OP is aware of bias against sport bikes in the minds of some officers. Another factor is favoritism. Very hard to prove, but I was a witness to a younger driver getting short shrift in favor of an older local woman in a collision clearly caused by the woman.

OP, what make a model was the car and was the driver? I was called a year later by a lawyer for the older woman to check my recollection. It became a civil case. I’m sorry you seem to lack witnesses. Maybe put up an ad or poster in the area.

In the future, get a camera on your helmet. This would go a long way towards proven nag your case. That is a lot of cheddar for the hospital bill. Do you have insurance?

yeah 62k for two days at the hospital (my stay was great im not going to lie) and 2500 for the ambulance plus the bike was totalled so i had to get another one. no medical insurance. bike had i surance. the car was a black for fusion with a young, blind and stupid girl behind the wheel (Caucasian)
 
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fireblade929

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I understand that. What I was asking is, was she pointed straight ahead initially and a ways into the intersection, thus making it obvious to most observers, that she was intending to go straight? And then changed her mind at the last second?

Go on Google Maps, zoom in on the intersection, use satellite view, copy/print it, draw in where she was initially as well as where you were, then show how and where she turned and where you got hit. Be as accurate as possible.

how do i post pic in here?
i was not lane sharing, i was behind the car. as i came up to the corner where i was supposed to turn right, i checked for her blinker (off) and if the light was green,so as soon as she came up to the ped cross i pulled off from behind her and started my right turn.her car was in the middle of the ped crossing slightly tuned right. the report said i was passing on the right which is ridiculous due to the fact that is was a o e way 3 lane street. why would i be passing on the right when i had two other lanes to do lane sharing? anybody that rides know that passing on the right is a big no no. this is my first accident btw.
 
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fireblade929

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Could be the officer initially assumed the driver was making a right turn from improper position but the investigation later revealed something else. Were there any witnesses listed on the report that contradict your statement?

my statement was never took. it was just between the officer and the driver.
 

fireblade929

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Sounds like the woman was trying to go straight through the intersection, couldn't make it in time (in that case she shouldn't have even entered the intersection), then, as you were making a legal right turn, she changed her mind and decided to turn right. If that assessment is correct, she's at fault, not you and I don't know what's up with the officer.

Was her car in the intersection and pointing straight ahead?

she was in the middle of the ped crossing when she realized she was not going to make it across then turn right. the cop said she told him 1. she turned on the bliker last second, 2 she didnt look at her blind spot, 3 she admited to the officer she was at fault. she admited her wrong doing 3 TIMES to the officer, yet, he put me at fault but what really hurt me the most was that she didnt even come to see if i was dead or alive. no heart at all.
 

fireblade929

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I had a wreck with a red light runner. SHe told me, my ex wife and the cop she wasn't paying attention and ran the red. Cop did NOT write any of that down. Later she apparently told her husband I ran the red. My insurance "experts" agreed since I hit her broadside instead of her hitting , and probably killing, me. Insurance company said they sent me a notice if I wanted to dispute it. Never got it. Found out 2 years later I was found at fault.
I was pissed. Make SURE the officer writes down ALL pertinent info including statements.

Mad

p.s.- she claimed to be a good Christian. Jeebus don't like liars...

that is fucked up bro, why in hell did the cop left that part out. she admited fault, shouldn't that be enough?
insurance are just there to fuck you up.
 
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fireblade929

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Sorry I added to confusion. Just wanted to point out to get the cop to write down ALL pertinent info.

Mad

how do u get the cop to write it all down? (specially the part where she told him 3 times she was at fault)when i was on my way to the hospital. when the cop showed up at the hospital i was sure he was going to ask my side of what happened, but he was there just to tell me that she was at fault and to hand me the police report number. he told me she was at fault but he wrote the contrary on his report. he should have said " you made a mistake, u are at fault" but he lied to me.
 

ST Guy

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how do i post pic in here?
i was not lane sharing, i was behind the car. as i came up to the corner where i was supposed to turn right, i checked for her blinker (off) and if the light was green,so as soon as she came up to the ped cross i pulled off from behind her and started my right turn.her car was in the middle of the ped crossing slightly tuned right. the report said i was passing on the right which is ridiculous due to the fact that is was a o e way 3 lane street. why would i be passing on the right when i had two other lanes to do lane sharing? anybody that rides know that passing on the right is a big no no. this is my first accident btw.

Sounds like I thought it was....she's guilty of making a turn without making sure it was safe to do so. She was changing her intended direction of travel. Good luck to you.

Perhaps a good motorcycle friendly lawyer is what you need, considering the expenses involved.
 
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fireblade929

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finally, than you. thats exactly what happened. i hired an attorney right after i got out of the hospital, they told me i had a good case cuz the girl admited 3 times she was at fault but when the report came out, they dropped trhe case.
 

TheRiddler

Riddle me this.
Sounds like unsafe passing on the right.

Her admitting fault or claiming fault doesn't mean she was at fault.
 
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