input from any leo, pls?

fireblade929

Well-known member
so i got involved in an accident. long story short, i was behing this car and i thought she was going straight as we reached the intersection, i checked her blinker (off) so pulled off from behind her and started to turn right, the she decided to turn right also so she didnt get caught in the middle of the intersection by the red light. so she turned right as i was starting to make my right turn, she hit me and sent me and my bike head first into a wall at the corner. an ambulance picked me up cuz i broke my tail bone. so when i was at the hospital, a police officer came to give me the police report number and he said that the girl admited she was at fault, she said that she used the blinker last minute and didn't check her blind spot. so after 2 days in the hospital and a 62,000 bill plus 2k for the ambulance, the police report said that i was at fault cuz i was passing on the right ( i was not, i was turning right).so why the cop lied to me at the hospital?
 

Rel

Groveland, where's that?
You'd have to ask the officer. We can't answer that question.....
 

Shaggy

Zoinks!!!!
Call the investigating agency and ask to speak with the reporting officer.

I would reference 22100(a) VC, which states:

Right Turns. Both the approach for a right-hand turn and a right-hand turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway except:

(1) Upon a highway having three marked lanes for traffic moving in one direction that terminates at an intersecting highway accommodating traffic in both directions, the driver of a vehicle in the middle lane may turn right into any lane lawfully available to traffic moving in that direction upon the roadway being entered.

(2) If a right-hand turn is made from a one-way highway at an intersection, a driver shall approach the turn as provided in this subdivision and shall complete the turn in any lane lawfully available to traffic moving in that direction upon the roadway being entered.

(3) Upon a highway having an additional lane or lanes marked for a right turn by appropriate signs or markings, the driver of a vehicle may turn right from any lane designated and marked for that turning movement.
 

ST Guy

Well-known member
Sounds like the woman was trying to go straight through the intersection, couldn't make it in time (in that case she shouldn't have even entered the intersection), then, as you were making a legal right turn, she changed her mind and decided to turn right. If that assessment is correct, she's at fault, not you and I don't know what's up with the officer.

Was her car in the intersection and pointing straight ahead?
 

Lionel Cosgrove

Well-known member
Could be the officer initially assumed the driver was making a right turn from improper position but the investigation later revealed something else. Were there any witnesses listed on the report that contradict your statement?
 

fireblade929

Well-known member
Could be the officer initially assumed the driver was making a right turn from improper position but the investigation later revealed something else. Were there any witnesses listed on the report that contradict your statement?

there wasnt any witness. the officer only took her statement and put me at fault even tho she admited she was at fault.
 

fireblade929

Well-known member
Sounds like the woman was trying to go straight through the intersection, couldn't make it in time (in that case she shouldn't have even entered the intersection), then, as you were making a legal right turn, she changed her mind and decided to turn right. If that assessment is correct, she's at fault, not you and I don't know what's up with the officer.

Was her car in the intersection and pointing straight ahead?
her car was starting to make the turn that when she hit me..
 

fireblade929

Well-known member
Could be the officer initially assumed the driver was making a right turn from improper position but the investigation later revealed something else. Were there any witnesses listed on the report that contradict your statement?

my statement was never took. i was taken to the hospital with a broken tail bo e, so when the po showed up at the hospital, i thought he was going to take my statement but he said that the other party was at fault and ha ded me the police report number.
 

Maddevill

KNGKAW
I had a wreck with a red light runner. SHe told me, my ex wife and the cop she wasn't paying attention and ran the red. Cop did NOT write any of that down. Later she apparently told her husband I ran the red. My insurance "experts" agreed since I hit her broadside instead of her hitting , and probably killing, me. Insurance company said they sent me a notice if I wanted to dispute it. Never got it. Found out 2 years later I was found at fault.
I was pissed. Make SURE the officer writes down ALL pertinent info including statements.

Mad

p.s.- she claimed to be a good Christian. Jeebus don't like liars...
 

295566

Numbers McGee
My insurance "experts" agreed since I hit her broadside instead of her hitting , and probably killing, me.

This is my thinking regarding your situation. Just because she initially "admits fault" doesn't mean she didn't get spooked and recant her story. Given that, and likely lack of any witnesses, officer has to go on the evidence he sees.

OP, did you hit the side of her car (fender/door) or the front (hood/bumper)?
 

Shaggy

Zoinks!!!!
Also, insurance companies don’t always follow the opinions of the police report. They generally do what is cheapest for them, and if that contradicts the collision report then so be it.
 

Mr Pepsi

Mr Pepsi (Brent)
What I keep wanting to ask, were you sharing her lane past her to turn right, or did you have your own right turn lane?
 

Junkie

gone for now
This is my thinking regarding your situation. Just because she initially "admits fault" doesn't mean she didn't get spooked and recant her story. Given that, and likely lack of any witnesses, officer has to go on the evidence he sees.

OP, did you hit the side of her car (fender/door) or the front (hood/bumper)?
If one party ran a red light, who hit who doesn't mean anything regarding fault.
 

295566

Numbers McGee
If one party ran a red light, who hit who doesn't mean anything regarding fault.

Nowhere in OP's story does it say anything about running the light. He said she turned, presumably after already entering the intersection, to avoid being stuck in the middle when it turned red, creating a gridlock violation. Because it wasn't mentioned anywhere, I'd assume the light was yellow, maybe even green, when she entered the intersection.

If the driver in front of OP ran the red, then by default OP would have run that same light as well, otherwise he would have stopped prior to executing his right turn at the light as legally required, and avoided the collision to begin with.

So, while you're correct, it doesn't apply to this situation at all.
 

Mr Pepsi

Mr Pepsi (Brent)
Nowhere in OP's story does it say anything about running the light. He said she turned, presumably after already entering the intersection, to avoid being stuck in the middle when it turned red, creating a gridlock violation. Because it wasn't mentioned anywhere, I'd assume the light was yellow, maybe even green, when she entered the intersection.

If the driver in front of OP ran the red, then by default OP would have run that same light as well, otherwise he would have stopped prior to executing his right turn at the light as legally required, and avoided the collision to begin with.

So, while you're correct, it doesn't apply to this situation at all.

He was responding to MadDevil's post.
 

ST Guy

Well-known member
her car was starting to make the turn that when she hit me..

I understand that. What I was asking is, was she pointed straight ahead initially and a ways into the intersection, thus making it obvious to most observers, that she was intending to go straight? And then changed her mind at the last second?

Go on Google Maps, zoom in on the intersection, use satellite view, copy/print it, draw in where she was initially as well as where you were, then show how and where she turned and where you got hit. Be as accurate as possible.
 

ST Guy

Well-known member
Nowhere in OP's story does it say anything about running the light. He said she turned, presumably after already entering the intersection, to avoid being stuck in the middle when it turned red, creating a gridlock violation. Because it wasn't mentioned anywhere, I'd assume the light was yellow, maybe even green, when she entered the intersection.

If the driver in front of OP ran the red, then by default OP would have run that same light as well, otherwise he would have stopped prior to executing his right turn at the light as legally required, and avoided the collision to begin with.

So, while you're correct, it doesn't apply to this situation at all.

Two stories getting mixed up. Let's stick with the original.
 

Junkie

gone for now
Nowhere in OP's story does it say anything about running the light. He said she turned, presumably after already entering the intersection, to avoid being stuck in the middle when it turned red, creating a gridlock violation. Because it wasn't mentioned anywhere, I'd assume the light was yellow, maybe even green, when she entered the intersection.

If the driver in front of OP ran the red, then by default OP would have run that same light as well, otherwise he would have stopped prior to executing his right turn at the light as legally required, and avoided the collision to begin with.

So, while you're correct, it doesn't apply to this situation at all.
You quoted maddevill, I quoted you. I was referring to maddevill's crash (which he started off by saying involved a red light runner).
 

295566

Numbers McGee
You quoted maddevill, I quoted you. I was referring to maddevill's crash (which he started off by saying involved a red light runner).

Oh ok makes sense. I forget sometimes that BARF doesn't allow quotes inside of quotes, so it initially appeared you were only referencing my post.
 
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