When will the SIP end?

[Yakoo752]

No, we sell a temperature probe that is FDA certified to properly track and document a freezers temperature.

A requirement that all hospitals must follow.

We only go to -20 so we’ve been referring our customers to a competitor that can.

Yes, Sutter was the last and they finished a month ago.

 

[Yakoo752]

Oh and they don't have to be LN2

Plenty of near -100 commercial freezers on the market for ~$10k

American Bio and Cryostar has been selling them for a decade

Any REF (Reproduction, Endocrinology, Fertilization) shop already has 1

 

[bojangle]

Figured it was time for Bo to get a raise :laughing

Thanks for looking out, man! I'm hoping for a 25% Christmas bonus! :thumbup

 

[Eldritch]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/13/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

 

[Climber]

190k new cases reported in the US yesterday.

For too many people, this vaccine will be too little, too late.

Edit: Too early in the morning, fixed the number. We're likely to exceed 200k new cases tomorrow.

 

[bojangle]

165k new cases reported in the US yesterday.

For too many people, this vaccine will be too little, too late.

Yeah, for those who die or get serious complications it will. But once sufficiently rolled out, vaccines will put an end to the pandemic, regardless of how many first got sick.

I'll be getting a vaccine even tho I've had the Rona.

 

[Climber]

Yeah, for those who die or get serious complications it will. But once sufficiently rolled out, vaccines will put an end to the pandemic, regardless of how many first got sick.

I'll be getting a vaccine even tho I've had the Rona.

I was wondering how they were going to handle that.

I guess with the question still up in the air about how long immunity lasts following an infection it's better to be safer than sorry.

There are a lot of states whose new cases number have been going up significantly since October and continuing since Thanksgiving. While N and S Dakota have leveled off several weeks ago, N Dakota is up to #4 for deaths/million despite the significantly lower deaths/infection rates.

Certainly, increased testing is a factor in the new cases number, but there is also a significantly higher positivity rate.

It's going to be a very rough Christmas this year for a lot of families. All of the ICU beds are filled in the central valley, you definitely don't want to catch a bad case of covid-19 down here at this time and probably for the next month.

 

[bojangle]

I was wondering how they were going to handle that.

I guess with the question still up in the air about how long immunity lasts following an infection it's better to be safer than sorry.

There are a lot of states whose new cases number have been going up significantly since October and continuing since Thanksgiving. While N and S Dakota have leveled off several weeks ago, N Dakota is up to #4 for deaths/million despite the significantly lower deaths/infection rates.

Certainly, increased testing is a factor in the new cases number, but there is also a significantly higher positivity rate.

It's going to be a very rough Christmas this year for a lot of families. All of the ICU beds are filled in the central valley, you definitely don't want to catch a bad case of covid-19 down here at this time and probably for the next month.

I'd also think this would affect other regions as well. If someone in the so called "San Joaquin Valley" region got really bad covid needing hospitalization, I'd think they'd be transfered to a hospital with ICU availability in another region, thereby impacting surrounding regions even more.

 

[Climber]

I'd also think this would affect other regions as well. If someone in the so called "San Joaquin Valley" region got really bad covid needing hospitalization, I'd think they'd be transfered to a hospital with ICU availability in another region, thereby impacting surrounding regions even more.

Absolutely.
I haven't seen anything about them creating new places with equipment in auditoriums. Not sure why they haven't. The current surge around the country would call for it but we're hearing very little about those kinds of preparations.

I remember, early on in the pandemic, how they had done that in New York, New Orleans and some other places hit hard. But that was the Federal government who seem to be less proactive during this much larger surge.

 

[Yakoo752]

I'd also think this would affect other regions as well. If someone in the so called "San Joaquin Valley" region got really bad covid needing hospitalization, I'd think they'd be transfered to a hospital with ICU availability in another region, thereby impacting surrounding regions even more.

ICU patients tend to not be transferred, they look for ambulatory patients instead.

If an ICU is overwhelmed with covid patients, they will either expand their current footprint or transfer ambulatory covid patients to other facilities.

Also

Trump Admin says they turned down Pfizer vaccine in July..

The federal government said those discussions happened in July. Now they’re saying they happened in October. So we’re getting closer to when I think the last discussions were, which was November. In the interim, other countries have put in orders for those supplies. I think they’re going to work this out. I think hopefully we’ll find a way to increase supply and be able to get the government what the government needs. This is an American company, we want to work with the U.S. government. But this has been a challenging process because there have been multiple conversations happening as recently as November, and now they’re coming back and wanting to restart those conversations when other commitments have been made in the interim.

“I think this will get worked out,” Gottlieb added. He noted that the United States has locked in Pfizer vaccines for the first quarter of 2021, but there could be a lack of supply starting in April.

I'm guessing Trump Admin doesn't understand the complexities of manufacturing a vaccine.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/former-...more-pfizer-vaccines-as-recently-as-november/

 

[bojangle]

ICU patients tend to not be transferred, they look for ambulatory patients instead.

If an ICU is overwhelmed with covid patients, they will either expand their current footprint or transfer ambulatory covid patients to other facilities.

Also

Trump Admin says they turned down Pfizer vaccine in July..

Yeah, that also kinda what I was thinking. But either way it will impact other regions. I'm sure you can confirm that staffing is a bigger issue than actual beds.

 

[Yakoo752]

Absolutely.
I haven't seen anything about them creating new places with equipment in auditoriums. Not sure why they haven't. The current surge around the country would call for it but we're hearing very little about those kinds of preparations.

I remember, early on in the pandemic, how they had done that in New York, New Orleans and some other places hit hard. But that was the Federal government who seem to be less proactive during this much larger surge.

Those were never really for Covid patients. The design was always for non-covid patients so you could keep the highest acuity patient in the hospital.

 

[Climber]

Those were never really for Covid patients. The design was always for non-covid patients so you could keep the highest acuity patient in the hospital.

Thanks for the clarification. :thumbup

Within another week, they're going to probably start turning very sick patients away, we're on the edge of the realm where decisions are made to send people home to die.

This is the end result of the Stupid anti-masker behavior, and it's probably not them who will be suffering but the secondary and tertiary 'beneficiaries' of their stupidity. They had theirs, now a lot of other people are going to pay the price.

 

[Yakoo752]

I'm sure you can confirm that staffing is a bigger issue than actual beds.

100%

On average a hospital is licensed for X amount of beds but only staffs at ~45%

Traveling care workers were readily available at short notice if you started to exceed

Not any more.

 

[Yakoo752]

Also, I am kind of surprised they haven't steamed out USNS Mercy and/or Comfort.

 

[GAJ]

Well, this thread was quite calm until it wasn't.

I think the protagonist is completely wrong but I HOPE he is correct.

The Global rollout was not supposed to be to First World Countries first so I think that is part of the reason folks like myself (64 and retired) won't get the vaccine until September or so.

I would not like for me to push ahead of Health Care workers in Third World Countries; that would be flat wrong.

This is a Global problem and the US should not get "first dibs."

 

[Climber]

Also, I am kind of surprised they haven't steamed out USNS Mercy and/or Comfort.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[Bowling4Bikes]

how will they know if I have secondary health risks that could be exacerbated by covid, so as to prioritize those of us? they better not be rummaging through my health records..

 

[Climber]

I would assume that your doctor would have to put your name in.

There are too many scammers out there, especially among some cultures where scamming is considered a virtue.

 

[Yakoo752]

I would assume that your doctor would have to put your name in.

There are too many scammers out there, especially among some cultures where scamming is considered a virtue.

Primary care is currently triaging their patient population based on guidelines from :dunno

region distribution is occurring based on susceptibility demographics