When will the SIP end?

[Archimedes]

Removing SIP doesn't mean going back to normal. It means allowing people to begin moving around under strict social distancing requirements and the entire business community putting rigorous procedures in place if they intend to be open. Then it leaves it up to each person to decide how much risk that they want to take.

I can guarantee you, come May 1st, a lot of people are going to be out and about regardless of what our State and local government says. Down here in Monterey they went totally wacky last week and said gardners were not permitted to work. Probably the least likely to spread it in the community and the most likely to go hungry and lose their residence without a job. Just fucking moronic to force them to stop working.

We have 69 cases and 3 deaths in a county of 500,000 people and our County leaders just yesterday were sounding the alarm about the coming surge and how we're going to run out of beds. Wtf?!! So we're going to have a surge AFTER SIP procedures have been in place for three weeks? Again, just fucking retarded.

Like I said, everyone can do what they want for all I care. Come May 1, I will back on the bike path, on the beach, hiking, etc., just staying at least 10 feet away from people. Hopefully a few of the stores I use will start opening up by May 15.

 

[Yakoo752]

I just sat on a call with the CEO of one of California's largest hospital systems.

They voiced concern of a surge even though they only have a few hundred covid patients. They have about 50 crit care covid and 35 ICU covid. They're respiratory clinics have slowed and they are seeing the "curve" drop.

They're concerned that it's eye of the storm. As more people question the severity of it, they're afraid of a second coming.

 

[bojangle]

Removing SIP doesn't mean going back to normal. It means allowing people to begin moving around under strict social distancing requirements and the entire business community putting rigorous procedures in place if they intend to be open. Then it leaves it up to each person to decide how much risk that they want to take.

I can guarantee you, come May 1st, a lot of people are going to be out and about regardless of what our State and local government says. Down here in Monterey they went totally wacky last week and said gardners were not permitted to work. Probably the least likely to spread it in the community and the most likely to go hungry and lose their residence without a job. Just fucking moronic to force them to stop working.

We have 69 cases and 3 deaths in a county of 500,000 people and our County leaders just yesterday were sounding the alarm about the coming surge and how we're going to run out of beds. Wtf?!! So we're going to have a surge AFTER SIP procedures have been in place for three weeks? Again, just fucking retarded.

Like I said, everyone can do what they want for all I care. Come May 1, I will back on the bike path, on the beach, hiking, etc., just staying at least 10 feet away from people. Hopefully a few of the stores I use will start opening up by May 15.

You can do those things anyways, right now under SIP, unless certain beaches or trails are closed to the public. If they are closed, and remain closed after May 1st, you'll be breaking the law. I'm working out in the public and I'm also getting outside in my neighborhood for exercise every day under SIP. I still go to the stores when needed. I just wear a mask now, and hand sanitizer. The biggest change in my life is just now being able to get together with extended family and such.

I realize that life is a lot harder for those who can't work.

 

[Yakoo752]

Not sure how I feel

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...oogle-build-smartphone-tool-to-track-covid-19

 

[Climber]

Not sure how I feel

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...oogle-build-smartphone-tool-to-track-covid-19

I can come up with a dozens what, unintended, that this app and it's data can be used.

I suspect that the government will be in contact with them.

 

[Yakoo752]

On his presser today, Newsom said he was in contact with them.

 

[Climber]

On his presser today, Newsom said he was in contact with them.

Yeah, I heard he bought 200 Million N95 masks for $1 Billion.

3m is suing a company selling masks to NY for $5 saying it's price gouging because 3m has been selling them and continues to sell them for $1 each.

Probably more to come.....

 

[Archimedes]

You can do those things anyways, right now under SIP, unless certain beaches or trails are closed to the public. If they are closed, and remain closed after May 1st, you'll be breaking the law.

They're closed here, so yes I will be breaking the law. I don't think I'll be alone in that though. I will be staying far away from anyone else though.

 

[Archimedes]

I just sat on a call with the CEO of one of California's largest hospital systems.

They voiced concern of a surge even though they only have a few hundred covid patients. They have about 50 crit care covid and 35 ICU covid. They're respiratory clinics have slowed and they are seeing the "curve" drop.

They're concerned that it's eye of the storm. As more people question the severity of it, they're afraid of a second coming.

Chicken Littles are everywhere these days.

CNN just reported that the models show that today should be peak deaths, almost to the day I said it would be doing my simple little calculations.

 

[Yakoo752]

I don't think it's chicken little. They have to prepare and they have to be honest with their staff.

Voicing concern is not panicking.

There is significant concern that a return to normalcy is risky. They're planning for the risk. I hope it's all for naught but :dunno

This wasn't a simple call with the general public. It was a vendor and staff sitrep to update us as to how we can better support them. What it's going to look like in the next 10-15 days. They were optimistic but still preparing.

 

[Yakoo752]

This was their path to normalcy

1. 14-28 days on the downside of the curve
2. Ability to do rapid testing of anyone who needs it (enough test kits and no more backlogs of unprocessed tests)
3. Ability to easily do contact tracing to squelch any new disease flares
4. Surveillance antibody testing to understand the true exposure rate in the community

Some of these things are getting closer to fruition.
Curve is supposed to peak for the US this weekend, although it will be different city by city, Bay Area is inline but the recent surge in the homeless population does cause concern.

Walgreens and CVS will be allowed to do testing without a physician order, to rapidly expand availability.

Community surveillance studies were initiated in the past week, so hopefully we will start to see some results in the next week or so to determine overall exposure rates.

 

[rothmans]

We need to understand that we will have to have a soft SIP permanently in force for any kind of mutation this virus undertakes.
100% mandatory app tracking of all people and no travel or admission to large group events without a Covid certificate.

 

[Climber]

We need to understand that we will have to have a soft SIP permanently in force for any kind of mutation this virus undertakes.
100% mandatory app tracking of all people and no travel or admission to large group events without a Covid certificate.

You can move to China, if you desire that. :laughing

 

[rothmans]

You can move to China, if you desire that. :laughing

Climber, we may need an MSA, similar to TSA where you will have to go through various checkpoints and if you do not have papers or a digital ID you will need to get an instant vaccine shot developed and supplied by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (they are doing great work, tremendous).

Currently in the new stimulus bill there is funding to incorporate the MSA into Homeland Security.

We have little time to waste getting the Medical Security Administration up and running. Current estimates are that we will need a workforce of around 10m to man the agency, fortunately there are currently about that many unemployed and looking for work.

 

[Slow Goat]

I think our view is clouded by the positive way CA responded the second week of March. Most of our citizens have done a good job.
However other parts of the country were late to act and will see increasing rates of infection for weeks or more.

 

[Climber]

Interestingly, Florida hasn't blown up despite keeping their beaches open for spring break.

BUT, I wonder how many people took the virus home with them from bike week and Daytona spring break back to their own states.

Plenty of people go to New Orleans for Mardi Gras from out of state as well.

 

[Yakoo752]

Florida has a pretty low population density as a whole. I would look to individual cities and to see what’s happening.

IHME believes schools were a greater vector, Florida closed its Schools and bars/nightlife 2 days prior to California.

 

[Butch]

Sally thinks a tattoo on the forehead indicating clean test results is the future...

 

[m0t0_ryder]

Sally thinks a tattoo on the forehead indicating clean test results is the future...

ala Logan's Run?
When does your palm flower change to black? (A: When you've got the "Rona")
What to do? (A: Report into the Sleepshop)
Results? (A: Mitigation)

 

[GAJ]

100% mandatory app tracking of all people and no travel or admission to large group events without a Covid certificate.

Um, I have a flip phone.

I'm not kidding. :laughing