What is Wrong with This Picture?

[ZCrow]

Will AI driver assists really save us from ourselves?

(Source Subaru Ireland's Eye Sight web page)

I saw this on the comments section of an article on Inattentive Blindness on the Common Thread. A quick Google search confirmed, yup this really is live on the Subaru's website.

I don't know whether their Eyesight System would fail this test but clearly their advertising department did.

 

[ThumperX]

:wow

We really are invisible two wheeled ninjas!

 

[Johndicezx9]

Looks like a target rich environment to cause some mayhem.

 

[Gary856]

I don't know whether their Eyesight System would fail this test but clearly their advertising department did.

What did their advertising dept do wrong?

I'm planning to buy a Subaru. Their Eyesight System has "rear cross traffic detection" capability. I assume it's helpful when backing out of a parking spot when side sightline are blocked by adjacent cars.

 

[Map8]

I don't see the problem. The scooter is in the other lane and not crossing the path of the Subaru (POV) so the system doesn't consider it a threat. All three people and the other Subaru are in the path of the driver. The system isn't identifying the trees or planters as obstacles so why should it identify the scooter? Seems like that is the way eye-sight and similar driver aids should work.

 

[Whammy]

Where is that kids momma, why isn't she holding his hand?
The Lady isn't looking both ways.
What the hell the bicycle isn't supposed to be crossing the street off the curb... no bike lane?
The Subaru its going the wrong way down the street, driver is on the wrong side of the car.:teeth
Did I get them all?

 

[ThumperX]

Does no one else see the motorcycle??? The AI sure dosen't!

 

[ZCrow]

I don't see the problem. The scooter is in the other lane and not crossing the path of the Subaru (POV) so the system doesn't consider it a threat. All three people and the other Subaru are in the path of the driver. The system isn't identifying the trees or planters as obstacles so why should it identify the scooter? Seems like that is the way eye-sight and similar driver aids should work.

The found the photo posted in response to an article that dealt with the issue of inattentive blindness and why drivers do not see you when performing SMIDSY. I can see your point and it would be interesting to see if the scooter turning on it's blinker or if this was an intersection whether it would be different. As for the tree or planters, I am pretty sure they are not moving or in the street. :teeth

 

[Gary856]

Does no one else see the motorcycle??? The AI sure dosen't!

The photo illustrates "rear" cross traffic detection for Subaru's Eyesight system. The scooter is on the side, not in the path of the car.

 

[Map8]

The found the photo posted in response to an article that dealt with the issue of inattentive blindness and why drivers do not see you when performing SMIDSY. I can see your point and it would be interesting to see if the scooter turning on it's blinker or if this was an intersection whether it would be different. As for the tree or planters, I am pretty sure they are not moving or in the street. :teeth

The point is that there is nothing wrong with the picture in your OP. The collision avoidance system sees all the obstacles and identifies which obstacles are immediate threats for a collision (illustrated here by the blue boxes). There are other obstacles (scooter, trees, planters, etc...) but those aren't immediate collision threats so they aren't identified by the boxes. The system isn't blind to the scooter as was presupposed in the comments system of the linked article.

 

[redtail]

The collision avoidance system sees all the obstacles and identifies which obstacles are immediate threats for a collision (illustrated here by the blue boxes).

The car has a blue box and yet it appears to be no more or less of a "threat" than the motorcycle?

And if the motorcycle shouldn't be taken into consideration, it appears as though the bicyclist is considering the motorcycles approach.

 

[Gary856]

The car has a blue box and yet it appears to be no more or less of a "threat" than the motorcycle?

:facepalm The car in the blue box is the "Subaru" detecting the cross traffic behind it.

 

[Map8]

:facepalm The car in the blue box is the "Subaru" detecting the cross traffic behind it.

Watch the video on the linked Subaru page. Its a promotion for the Eye Sight technology and how it avoids front end collisions. Though Subaru offers rear collision avoidance, that feature is not described on that page or in the video. The video focuses solely on the front facing cameras how they work with the system to avoid front end collisions.

 

[bpw]

Does anyone really thing the system works by drawing little blue boxes around threats?

It's marketing stuff, not a technical illustration of the systems functionality.

Even if it was, on-comming traffic in the other lane isn't a threat, but people in the crosswalk and a stopped car in front are. Unless of course the moto goes kamikaze into oncoming traffic.

 

[Gary856]

Watch the video on the linked Subaru page. Its a promotion for the Eye Sight technology and how it avoids front end collisions. Though Subaru offers rear collision avoidance, that feature is not described on that page or in the video. The video focuses solely on the front facing cameras how they work with the system to avoid front end collisions.

Thanks for the correction. Guilty for commenting without understanding the context. My apologies to Redtail for my incorrect response.

 

[ThumperX]

:x

 

[Marcoose]

I don't see the problem. The scooter is in the other lane and not crossing the path of the Subaru (POV) so the system doesn't consider it a threat. All three people and the other Subaru are in the path of the driver. The system isn't identifying the trees or planters as obstacles so why should it identify the scooter? Seems like that is the way eye-sight and similar driver aids should work.

You know, it's teh barfs, land of drama.

 

[Map8]

You know, it's teh barfs, land of drama.

No drama. We all see what we want to see. These driver aids aren't fool proof but neither are humans. Motorcycle awareness is a serious subject and should be discussed from every angle.

 

[ThumperX]

The system is identifying all things with motion as a potential hazard. Were the motorcycle swerve side to side I believe it would find itself within a blue box.

My understanding is that we are looking at this from a forward facing camera not a rear view.

 

[Marcoose]

No drama. We all see what we want to see.

Lol. That fits well within the window of drama. "OMG, look, AVs are deliberately ignoring motorbikes, quick, start a thread on BARF! The horror, the horror!" That's hardly discussing the subject from every angle. That's drama. It's no different than non-riders/non-splitters arguing splitting is dangerous because they saw a blue tarp on 101. Put forth data, and we'll discuss it.