weight on foot pegs

khill

Well-known member
I feel that the information on these lap timers could significantly increase my understanding of how im riding.

Aim Solo 2 DL....Is there any places that BARF supports for the purchases of motorcycle products?

I would like to support BARF through purchases if applicable...

We use the AIM solo quite a bit at out Rick schools. Works great. The trick is....what data are you comparing it to....?

Ken
 
We use the AIM solo quite a bit at out Rick schools. Works great. The trick is....what data are you comparing it to....?

Ken

Myself... Lap to lap, corner to corner, where I throttle, where I brake, how far off my lines I am and how much it changes my time good or bad, My corner entry speed and my relative corner exit speed.

For starters anyway...
 

stangmx13

not Stan
The extra datalogging of the DL is only useful on certain bikes, mostly newer ones. U might not get TPS out of your bike. And if u don’t, I wouldn’t bother paying extra for the DL. So double check before buying.

U can see acceleration, deceleration, and lines in GPS on the non-DL.
 
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jaybocc2

o lento
The extra datalogging of the DL is only useful on certain bikes, mostly newer ones. U might not get TPS out of your bike. And if u don’t, I wouldn’t bother paying extra for the DL. So double check before buying.

U can see acceleration, deceleration, and lines in GPS on the non-DL.

His zx10r, in fact every zx10r with kit ecu since 2005 is supported.
 
The extra datalogging of the DL is only useful on certain bikes, mostly newer ones. U might not get TPS out of your bike. And if u don’t, I wouldn’t bother paying extra for the DL. So double check before buying.

U can see acceleration, deceleration, and lines in GPS on the non-DL.

Do you know if it will do lean angle?
 

stangmx13

not Stan
Do you know if it will do lean angle?

yes, all the data is there to calculate lean angle. it won't just show it to u on the screen though. ive got some Youtube videos at the link in my signature on how to use the AiM software. look for "R&D Riding Analysis".
 
yes, all the data is there to calculate lean angle. it won't just show it to u on the screen though. ive got some Youtube videos at the link in my signature on how to use the AiM software. look for "R&D Riding Analysis".

Nice to know the gyro is actually in the Aim itself....

But that is a lot of data to run through to find lean angle....

I dont think i have the time to commit to doing it....
 

stangmx13

not Stan
Nice to know the gyro is actually in the Aim itself....

But that is a lot of data to run through to find lean angle....

I dont think i have the time to commit to doing it....

lean angle is the result of speed, not a reason for speed. as long as u have the self-control to remove lean angle before adding acceleration, IMO u don't really need to look at that data often.
 
Coasting at max lean angle is not optimal for traction at the front. Whether trailbraking or not, the rider can improve traction and stability by getting back to the throttle and slowly rolling on as soon as he is at his deepest lean angle, is off the brakes and the bike is pointed. This takes away both weight and some lateral load from the front (the bike is leaned over).

I dont know what kind of lap times this guy runs but its an interesting video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps12mz_i3-0
 
thats Simon Crafar, an ex-GP racer with 1 win to his name. he is an amazing rider. its still undecided if hes an amazing teacher.

While i suppose its interesting that he was able to get to GP level with this method. And im a firm believer in looking at everything, thinking outside the box, as I have found to many times there is more than one way to skin a cat!

I listen and absorb from many sources and apply what i feel suits me best.

And this technique that he uses I would like to use to get my corner entry down and corner exit dialed before using brakes. Similar to what was mentioned earlier in this thread and what CSS does in level one BUT with more engine braking as the source of load on the front tire.

Wont work on all turns but im gonna try it next track day and see what it does for my corner speed.
 

Smash Allen

Banned
I just watched all 36 of his easy to digest videos in that series and I really really enjoyed them, thanks for sharing!! :ride

I don’t feel bad about sitting up against the tank anymore and am going to be releasing the brakes much sooner as he explains. Great tip on weighting the pegs to prevent wheelie on exit. Makes sense but I never thought to try. I will share my findings after the Sonoma weekend on 2/23, 2/24 :ride
 

tzrider

Write Only User
Staff member
Great tip on weighting the pegs to prevent wheelie on exit. Makes sense but I never thought to try. I will share my findings after the Sonoma weekend on 2/23, 2/24 :ride

Dude, your bike would wheelie if you were sitting on the front fender. :p
 

stangmx13

not Stan
While i suppose its interesting that he was able to get to GP level with this method. And im a firm believer in looking at everything, thinking outside the box, as I have found to many times there is more than one way to skin a cat!

I listen and absorb from many sources and apply what i feel suits me best.

And this technique that he uses I would like to use to get my corner entry down and corner exit dialed before using brakes. Similar to what was mentioned earlier in this thread and what CSS does in level one BUT with more engine braking as the source of load on the front tire.

Wont work on all turns but im gonna try it next track day and see what it does for my corner speed.

is it interesting? the race he won was in 98' on a 500cc 2-stroke. IMO, we cant assume the techniques he used back then are ideal for the motorcycle and tires that u are using now. we also cant assume that what hes "teaching" in these vids would put him anywhere near his previous level.

even his comment about "max engine braking" is kinda funny because motorcycles can have dramatically different engine braking. a stock bike will have a lot more engine braking than an MA spec bike w/ slipper mods and a kit ECU. so maybe your bike won't have enough engine braking and u should use 5% brake all the way to your slow point instead. hmmm.

should u apply what u feel suits u best? u don't know what u don't know, so how can u know what is best? IMO, listen to coaches that have personally worked with u first. listen to coaches that have worked with many students second. listen to yourself third. and listen to yahoos on the internet last, prob including me :laughing
 
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khill

Well-known member
While i suppose its interesting that he was able to get to GP level with this method. And im a firm believer in looking at everything, thinking outside the box, as I have found to many times there is more than one way to skin a cat!

I listen and absorb from many sources and apply what i feel suits me best.

And this technique that he uses I would like to use to get my corner entry down and corner exit dialed before using brakes. Similar to what was mentioned earlier in this thread and what CSS does in level one BUT with more engine braking as the source of load on the front tire.

Wont work on all turns but im gonna try it next track day and see what it does for my corner speed.

You can do whatever you want, but I will make 2 comments:

1) At the sharp end of the sport, there are certain fundamentals that are being used that is the consensus of all the top riders.

2) Amateur internet training will net you amateur results.


Ken
 
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