VW "Clean" Diesel not really clean

Dubbington

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Anyone know the mileage range that's acceptable during turn-in?

My appointment is Wednesday and my car is a daily driver. I've heard that if you go over by a certain amount that it delays the buyback by another month or so.

I can't find anyone that lists this and Reddit is impossible to navigate.
 

augustiron

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It is only delayed if you asked for a check, as the check is prewritten and if your mileage is higher and thus your refund will be smaller, they have to reschedule to cut another check.

Call the dealer and update the mileage estimate now?
 

KittenMeat

Life: It's Terminal!
i haven't really driven mine since I got it approved. Just turn it on, run it, maybe around the block or shuffle it through the parking spaces.

I'm pretty torn on what to replace it.

I'm moving to snow country pending this job offer. If I don't get it, I'm still moving out to the East Coast. I've no clue what would be the optimal vehicle for those conditions.
 

augustiron

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Snow country = subaru. Outback, impreza or forester depending on how.much people.or stuff you haul.
 

KittenMeat

Life: It's Terminal!
Snow country = subaru. Outback, impreza or forester depending on how.much people.or stuff you haul.

thinking about the forester XT. I had a subaru STi and the seats were the most uncomfortable things in the world. NO lumbar support and they weren't even well bolstered for a fast car (I'm not a big dude, either)

I guess driving is believing.

Not very happy about all the subarus having a CVT now. I really *REALLY* hate the CVT feeling.
 

augustiron

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Yeah, the cvt I'd what is keeping me away from a new subie. You can still get a stick in a used one though.
 
IF my WRX had had an 8 speed automatic or even just a regular 6 speed auto, I might have bought that instead of the manual transmission and kept the car. But nope. Not a fan of the CVT either.
 

augustiron

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Recalled TDIs being crushed by the thousands.

from http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=474999

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Footage of a staging area in Michigan

youtu.be/J05b95lpaUk
 
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Blankpage

alien
Someone could make a mint by buying up all of those and waiting for Trump to abolish the EPA. Two years from now those things may be perfectly legal.
 

augustiron

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Fahrvergsmüshen

I understand punishing the cheater, and setting an example that it cannot be tolerated, but how is shredding these cars causing less pollution or using less energy than allowing them to live out their lives.
Pretty aggravating from a cradle to grave perspective.
 
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Mike95060

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I understand punishing the cheater, and setting an example that it cannot be tolerated, but how is shredding these cars causing less pollution or using less energy than allowing them to live out their lives.
Pretty aggravating from a cradle to grave perspective.

Yeah. I make stuff. Thinking about the amount of work and resources going to waste here is hard to watch. I'm not sure if principle trumps practicality in this case.
 

augustiron

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fake, no VW are getting crushed until the matter is resolved.

Resolved? It is. Vw agreed to buy the cars back and keep them off the road. What do you think they are going to do with all of them?
Did you read the thread on the tdi forum? These guys don't take their VW stuff lightly, any fakes would have been uncovered.
 

KittenMeat

Life: It's Terminal!
=( That makes me sad.
I got a new alltrack out of the whole ordeal...which actually worked out really well for me since I needed an AWD car. The alltrack is great. Just transferred over all my stuff to it today (hardwired V1, tinted the rear windows) and took it up to napa for a drive.

but I did really love my TDI. I've never loved a vehicle quite as much as that stupid thing. So many epic road trips...
 
=( That makes me sad.
I got a new alltrack out of the whole ordeal...which actually worked out really well for me since I needed an AWD car. The alltrack is great. Just transferred over all my stuff to it today (hardwired V1, tinted the rear windows) and took it up to napa for a drive.

but I did really love my TDI. I've never loved a vehicle quite as much as that stupid thing. So many epic road trips...

Drove an A4 TDI Wagon in Germany and France for a few days earlier this month, what a rad car. Really wish I could get a Sportwagen or alltrack with one.

Regardless, the alltrack is on my list to replace the Forester. Would love to hear your opinion on it.
 

KittenMeat

Life: It's Terminal!
Drove an A4 TDI Wagon in Germany and France for a few days earlier this month, what a rad car. Really wish I could get a Sportwagen or alltrack with one.

Regardless, the alltrack is on my list to replace the Forester. Would love to hear your opinion on it.

so far:

Engine: Not as much torque as the TDI, so no extreme push you back in your seat, but this motor is a LOT smoother than the TDI. I hardly know the car is even on. The turbo does a number here too, and it hits lower than on the GTI but not as low as the TDI. The motor doesn't run out of breath up top either. The DSG keeps it in the sweet spot and you'd hardly know it had shifted most of the time. Give it full throttle at a stop light and you'll hear a single chirp from the front? rear? I can't tell but the thing just takes off. It reminds me of the acceleration of the first gen WRX I owned. It takes 87 octane, too. The motor has a lot of room for more power. APR makes software that is pretty impressive without any mods: 223 HP 87 octane 238 HP 91 octane 242 HP 93 octane

that's crazy!

Interior: A step up from the old sportwagen provided you got the SEL. If you got the SE or S, I thought the seats were a downgrade, but I had the SEL in the old one too. I like the dash less (the silver plastic or gray on SEL and fake carbon fiber on the door sills) but I like all the other interior materials more. IT's also a lot quieter than the outgoing jetta sportwagen. The sunroof shade is more shaded, the side mirrors make less noise, and the sound system is a lot better (with fender premium audio on my SEL) The steering wheel is D shaped like the GTI, and you can get adjustable lumbar support which is nice.

Exterior: Better headlights, the fender flares actually look right, they did some chris bangle style edges on the car but it looks nice and has a continuous theme. they have a weird window where the mirrors on the door used to be (Audi found putting side mirrors on the door rather than on the A pillar was significantly quieter on the A4) There's a lot more audi similarities than VW. The paint is better than subaru by far (subaru paint is garbage.) the wheel options are nice, I got the 18 in SEL wheels. The logo on the trunk conceals the backup camera when not in use. Body panels all line up better than a comparable japanese car (im looking at you, subaru and honda). It's a good looking car. It took a second for me to put it all together in my head as to what is different.


overall: I love subaru cars, and their engines, but the forester didn't do it for me, and the CVT reliability is suspect, and the engine series is new, so it will have problems (I talked to a wrx owner, same motor, with the CVT who had already gotten a new engine under warranty within the first year) whereas the 1.8TSI is a derivative of the same motors in every VW and Audi product, doesn't have the oil consumption issues of the GTI 2.0 (but you're a motorcyclist. just add oil. we know this) and has good performance very little vibration and decent economy if you can keep off the throttle (but why the hell would you, the turbo motor is too fun to drive!)

that's my one week review of owning the alltrack? :ride
 
The Forester can't get out of its own way and it's loud as hell. Spent a week on the east coast in a new Highlander and it's so quiet compared to my Subaru. A quiet cab is as a must for me in my next car.

I didn't realize that the alltrack put out that much power. Thought it was in the 180 range.
 

CoorsLight

Well-known member
Fahrvergsmüshen

I understand punishing the cheater, and setting an example that it cannot be tolerated, but how is shredding these cars causing less pollution or using less energy than allowing them to live out their lives.
Pretty aggravating from a cradle to grave perspective.

Yep. VW should have to pay for those negative externalities as well IMO. They are getting off easy for what they did.
 
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