virtual riding

[unhinged]

If technology allowed for a near-perfect simulation of riding a bike, would you still ride a real bike? I'm talking Matrix style, full sensory immersion including g-forces and all.

Sometimes people ride bikes because it's "real". Would the experience be enough knowing it wasn't?

Of course with that tech I wonder if I'd do anything real...
:smoking

 

[corndog67]

It would be like video games. Mental masturbation, or in other words, you'd just be a jackoff.

 

[}Dragon{]

 

[crick]

If technology allowed for a near-perfect simulation of riding a bike, would you still ride a real bike? I'm talking Matrix style, full sensory immersion including g-forces and all.

Sometimes people ride bikes because it's "real". Would the experience be enough knowing it wasn't?

Of course with that tech I wonder if I'd do anything real...
:smoking

If technology was at that level, then i wouldnt be doing ANYTHING real. i'd live my entire life on a holodeck cuz i'm that shallow.

 

[Loki1000R]

safe sex! without 'protection' :laughing

 

[Ogier le Danois]

Was it Budman who was in the pic or someone else?:thumbup

 

[tonedeaf]

dude of course i would. then you could turn off pain, load a YZF M1 and ride it as fast as you can go...

how looooow can you go

but i would do that with the goal of getting better at real riding

 

[rsrider]

Strange Days, before Matrix.

 

[jimboFosho]

Riding is only half the fun of motorcycles...

 

[Gary856]

Strange Days, before Matrix.

Brainstorm, before Strange Days.

Back on topic - how much would this virtual riding cost per minute? You think guys like us can afford it?

 

[westie]

No. I'd be having sex with a harem on the holodeck.:thumbup

 

[unhinged]

Brainstorm, before Strange Days.

Back on topic - how much would this virtual riding cost per minute? You think guys like us can afford it?

If you could hijack the brain's sensory input/output then you're looking at basically just a very advanced computer which should be feasible at some point. Lately the focus has been on miniaturization but computers will keep getting faster. Until skynet becomes self-aware. Or food shortages trigger WWIII.

I guess this goes back to Tron and lightcycles in 1982.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'd be simulating all sorts of weird situations to perfect my skills. Trackdays, dirt rides, fat cruisers on MX tracks, grunty twins on snowy roads, riding a sprotbile across the Darien Gap. If there's no practical limit to simulation, there's no excuse not to use it to perfect your skills. :teeth

I've always said, once the holodeck is invented, that's IT for humanity.

 

[tonedeaf]

^A-fuckin-men to all that

 

[Gary856]

I'd be simulating all sorts of weird situations to perfect my skills.

When you can download skills for free, skills no longer have value.

 

[gixxerjeff]

I had to look at what the o.p is riding before any of this made sense.

 

[Dr. Evil]

When you can download skills for free, skills no longer have value.

True. But I don't think it'll ever happen quite that way. Everyone forms different pathways to do the same job, and the idea of downloading and overlaying them will probably screw up existing ones.

But even so. I'll be the only one practicing my motorycle shit. Everyone else will be doing this:

No. I'd be having sex with a harem on the holodeck.:thumbup

 

[SFSV650]

I'd use it to run through hours and days of drills to find the limits of traction, how to break traction and recover without high siding, to push the envelope of emergency braking, to re run close calls (my own and others) to test out various responses, all to make me a better rider on the street. But I'd still want to get out there and ride, particularly because my interest in riding is more towards the touring end of sport touring.

I feel like most of this could be done with available technology, if there were a large enough market to support the development and operation of simulators.

 

[Kewl Breeze]

Without risks the thrill isn't the same. Even the unpleasant real world risks (slick roads, deers jumping out, etc..) are still part of the journey that complete the experience.

 

[unhinged]

You might be right. But I've had fun playing video games too... it is surely not the same as a real thing but is still fun. And that's today's shitty tech. I'm not convinced the risk itself is important... I have felt my heart rise and time slow down from an oh shit moment on a moto, and other emotions, but... well, the other parts are fun without that. Question would be, is that extra edge the part that is worth dying over?

This topic might sound retarded but it kind of gets into metaphysics and religious issues. Like, what is the concept of heaven, and if heaven is something like a holodeck then a) what does it mean if there's no risk in heaven b) what does it mean if there's no risk here because you'll go to heaven (or hell?) and c) what does it mean if humanity apparently has the potential ability to create a technological equivalent of heaven (or hell). Islam gives you 72 virgins? Here, we've got 93...
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