The Electric Motorcycle Thread

[R3DS!X]

Anyone know when the new zero is available for test rides?

 

[bigpoppa]

Anyone know when the new zero is available for test rides?

I signed up on their website to be notified when demo rides would be available. I can't say for sure but I seem to remember their website saying rides would be available once bikes start shipping this Spring.

 

[MikeL]

Zero has don't optimization so that that neither the Battery, Motor or Controller nears it thermal limit before the other systems. I'n not a EV engineer, but Zero's won't charge at very low or very hight temperatures. In some cases people touring in the summer and using accessory fast chargers have had issues when Riding, charging, riding, charging.

In other words, active cooling would help. If you charger is not powerful or your motor is not powerful, it probably does not matter, but the more you push the performance, the more you need active cooling.

People tour on their Zero's?

 

[dittoalex]

People tour on their Zero's?

"Electric Terry did his first 1000-mile day all the way back in 2014."

 

[MikeL]

"Electric Terry did his first 1000-mile day all the way back in 2014."

Interesting read. He did heavily modify the bike though. I thought he just took an off-the-shelf zero and went the distance :ride

Still cool that people are making it happen. I think with actively cooled batteries and level 3, you could make some fairly good "long range" bikes.

One day!

 

[HadesOmega]

People tour on their Zero's?

Check this thread out, this dude rode his Zero to 4 corners of the United States. I'm planning to buy a diginow supercharger for my Empulse to double the charging the speed would make touring possible. You have to get good at finding chargers.

http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516275&highlight=ben+rich

 

[Map8]

Harley Davidson released some performance specs for the LiveWire today:

Read the entire press release from HD at RoadRacingWorld.com

Today, Harley-Davidson announced final production-verified performance figures for LiveWire:

0 to 60 mph in 3.0 seconds and 60 to 80 mph in 1.9 seconds

140 miles (225 km) of city range or 88 miles (142 km) of combined stop-and-go and highway range as measured using the MIC City and MIC Combined (70mph) tests*

Standard DC Fast Charge technology which provides a 0-80% of battery charge in 40 minutes or 0-100% in 60 minutes

 

[Junkie]

140 miles (225 km) of city range or 88 miles (142 km) of combined stop-and-go and highway range as measured using the MIC City and MIC Combined (70mph) tests*

that puts real highway range pretty damn low I imagine

 

[sckego]

Buell is getting into the game, too. Missing a lot of details, but exciting that this is coming from someone who's been through the wringer of bringing new motorcycles to production. If they can hit that price point it'll be huge. https://electrek.co/2019/03/05/moto...launches-new-electric-motorcycle-brand-fuell/

The Fuell Flow electric motorcycle will come in two variants: 11 kW (14.8 hp) or 35 kW (47 hp).

Despite the founders’ racing pedigrees, the Flow electric motorcycle is designed primarily for urban applications. That’s been a common theme in many new electric motorcycle unveilings lately.

A rear hub motor is mounted in a single-sided swingarm with an off-center rear monoshock.

While the hub motor may add unsprung weight that would be less than desirable for high performance racing, its advantage in a commuter is that it frees up cargo space in the bike. The Flow should feature 50 liters (1.75 cubic feet) of cargo space. That’s huge in the motorcycle world, where space for a pair gloves or sunglasses is often considered a luxury.

Charging should also take just 30 minutes on a 20 kW public charger.

The Flow appears to lack a foot brake but also has an empty left bar where a rear hand brake would otherwise rest, meaning a single right brake lever might control the hydraulic disc brake in the front and regenerative braking in the rear.

Fuell indicates that the Flow should start at $10,995.

 

[Killroy1999]

Erik, I need more POWAH!!!
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[BillyBob48]

Anyone get a peek of the Lightning Strike yet?
What's going on, waiting is killing us...
Reveal now... now...
Now...

 

[MikeL]

Anyone get a peek of the Lightning Strike yet?
What's going on, waiting is killing us...
Reveal now... now...
Now...

Yeah, I'm excited for it as well. Hopefully before the end of the month!

 

[HadesOmega]

That's like something out of Tron =P

 

[dittoalex]

:rofl

 

[R3DS!X]

The Fuell looks like a XB12/9 with a body kit.

 

[Killroy1999]

I saw the new Zero SR/F today at the Zero Headquarters and that model has industrial design that is leaps and bounds better than the previous Zero's. Congrats Zero!

Maybe there are some specs that are not perfect by someones standards, but the ID is much, much better.

 

[R3DS!X]

Depending how much throttling occurs when riding aggressively I might be picking one up. The 100lbs lighter than the energica is hard to argue with.

 

[mrzuzzo]

Yeah I agree the new Zero looks really slick.

Never seen or heard of J Juan brakes though.. Which other motorcycles have those? Are they any good?

 

[HadesOmega]

Will have to try that bike out when SJ BMW gets em, maybe they'll do test rides at Alice's again would be nice to test it out on the twisties. I think this is the first new Zero bike that Brian Wissman helped to design would be good to see how his input from working at Brammo helped design this bike.

 

[Butch]

This is way cool, Josh Hill...
https://altaownersforum.com/threads/josh-hill-silent-shredding.944/