svclee said:i wouldnt run a redlight even if the light never changed, find a way around it even if it is a inconvenience. Running a redlight and a cop seeing that late at night isnt good and may or may not beleive you. Redlight tickets are alot of money. The cop wont know how long you sat there for and can just be a dik and ticket you anyways. You can also try putting your kickstand down if you have one which works for me sometimes. Or maybe put magnets in your shoes =P
silversvs said:If you come to a red light and the sensor does not appear to be working, wait a reasonable time, ensure that the roadway is clear, and then enter the intersection. [/B]
What if? What if? What it you read the law?rora said:what about the left hand turn lanes in kinda crowded intersections? what do you do when there's traffic, but you're stuck? bring a cell phone?
motorman4life said:What if? What if? What it you read the law?
21800(d)(1) CVC "The driver of any vehicle approaching an intersection which has official traffic control signals that are inoperative shall stop at the intersection, and may proceed with caution when it is safe to do so."
How fucking hard is that?
If you are in or on a vehicle (including a motorcycle) and the sensor does not sense your presence and trip the signal cycle accordingly, that is a malfunction. Once you have reasonably determined there is a malfunction, the law applies and you may proceed with caution, when it is safe to do so.
If it can't be done safely, then you can't do it. Merge into straight traffic and make 3 rights. Or take the next safe/legal U-turn.rora said:i'd guess just as for for you to read the question...
when is it SAFE to turn left in a CROWDED intersecion? seems to me the LAW says SAFE, right? well, if the signal ain't giving in, and the traffic isn't giving in, the WHATs the right thing to do? sit there until when?
rora said:i'd guess just as for for you to read the question...
when is it SAFE to turn left in a CROWDED intersecion? seems to me
the LAW says SAFE, right? well, if the signal ain't giving in, and the traffic isn't giving in, the WHATs the right thing to do? sit there until when?
Yeah, that's called "defensive driving." :laughing :laughing :wow :laughingrora said:AND its sure seem to be OUR job to figure out what's gonna happen NEXT, way before it happens...
silversvs said:Now to answer the initial question. Concerns about inoperative signals and signal sensors should be routed to the traffic engineering department of the City or County where the problem is. It is not a police issue.
Yeah, that deserved a ticket!:wowenki said:What a shithead, that Irvine cop.
majofly said:
I tried to explain that I waited 4 cycles and the light was obiously malfunctioning.
Ofcr-"No I was right behind you and it worked fine for me..."
RolnCode3 said:Yeah, that deserved a ticket!:wow
Why is he a shithead? Talk about a no-win situation.
MasterM3 said:Under no circumstances was I to proceed carefully through the red light. He stated that all of his officers would cite me if I did.
That brings up the question what's "non-operable"?
(d) (1) The driver of any vehicle approaching an intersection which has official traffic control signals that are inoperative shall stop at the intersection, and may proceed with caution when it is safe to do so. This subparagraph shall apply to traffic control signals that become inoperative because of battery failure.