So, early on there was a lot of misinformation about the virus...

bojangle

FN # 40
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That was definitely a miscalculation on their part, IMHO. I never bought it, like most.

The sad part is that if decent designs for masks could have circulated early and the people who were good at sewing had started making masks for friends and family, a lot could have been accomplished early on.

It never crossed their minds to go that kind of route. WW1 and WW2 showed that we, as a people, could be very resourceful when we put our minds to it.

That's what has been happening. All kinds of locals make masks and sell them on Facebook in my area. My wife had even made a few. They could have taken that approach, maybe. But...

Your government, the United States Government, lied to you. They lied to prevent you from buying inventory.

Dude, infection control is not something new. Surgeons have been wearing masks in theater for a long time. If you've ever been to the ER during the winter, they hand them out like candy.

It wasn't about prevention of the virus then. It was about protecting the supply chain and backfilling what we lacked in storage. If you tell people masks work, they obliterate the supply chain. Look at what happened to fucking toilet paper!

Confiscate private property? :rofl you want to see Republicans shit themselves?

I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.

I do not in any way shape or form disagree with your last sentence.

Exactly! People would have hoarded the fuck out of masks, just like what happened with hand sanitizers, bleach, alcohol, and toilet paper. They kinda had to lie in the beginning.
 

Climber

Well-known member
Exactly! People would have hoarded the fuck out of masks, just like what happened with hand sanitizers, bleach, alcohol, and toilet paper. They kinda had to lie in the beginning.
Yeah, they would have. And worse are the opportunists, like that jackass who bought all of the hand sanitizer in Kansas, then rented a truck and bought it all up within several hundred miles.

I HATE those fucking kinds of people, trying to profit off of other people's misfortune, like the bankers of the 1800's who took homes for pennies on the dollar owned. Just vultures.

They would have had to put a major penalty on trying to profit and make examples out of the assholes that did.
 

Blankpage

alien
Exactly! People would have hoarded the fuck out of masks, just like what happened with hand sanitizers, bleach, alcohol, and toilet paper. They kinda had to lie in the beginning.

I see why they did it but is making a mistake to offset another mistake ever the right course of action.
Thats when you lose confidence and it become a gong show.
The availability of N95's should never have been a problem in the first place.
 

Robert R1

Well-known member
I see why they did it but is making a mistake to offset another mistake ever the right course of action.
Thats when you lose confidence and it become a gong show.
The availability of N95's should never have been a problem in the first place.

Which goes back to incompetence at the fed level of letting the stockpile diminish in the first place as Yahoo said.

They had to cover their own asses before letting you cover yours.
 

CDONA

Home of Vortex tuning
N95's were a hot commodity ever since Ca started burning last few years. They disappeared during "these" events.
I've started collecting PPE for fires, and bought when stock returned to the shelves.
'rona hit, I had 4.
I didn't believe the lies, I didn't donate my life away either.
 

mlm

Contrarian
I still recall during wildfires they messaged masks were not effective for the general public. I didn’t see it as a lie, but rather because most people didn’t fit them properly and the false sense of security would increase their overall level of risk. IOW while it might protect some at an individual level, on aggregate it might make things worse.

I perceived it the same back in March

FWIW I stocked up on N95s for future fires and gave most to our local doctors office when they were asking for donations.
 
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tuxumino

purrfect
I had some N95s left over from August 2019 when I was sanding a rusty car roof and didn't want to breathe in the rust particles.
I was N95ing and gloving by mid March cus a security person at the building I work in tested positive so I figured I might have been exposed.
these days I just wear a surgical or clothe mask if I leave the house.

I still have to go to work and we're required to wear a mask to get in. We can take off our masks if were alone in a office, I'm in a cube farm with 70" walls and the boss says that's good enough to take the mask off but think now I'll leave it on all the time if it might reduce exposure even a little.
 
I wouldn't even have the courage to take off the mask, no matter how short of a timespan it's off my face. I wouldn't want to risk it.
 

Bowling4Bikes

Steee-riiike!
Fauci says that telling people not to wear (buy) masks sent mixed messages. https://www.kpcw.org/post/fauci-mixed-messaging-masks-set-us-public-health-response-back#stream/0

To me, I thought it was clear he said that so as to not have us buy up all the supplies like the hoarders we are, like Yakoo says. And there was reason to believe that PPEs were in short supply for the hospitals, from multiple sources. And the simple fact that hospital staff still uses surgical masks instead of N95s tells me he was right. The consuming public would have gobbled up any supply that could be sold...maybe good for ultimately stopping the initial surge, or maybe really bad for hospital workers. :dunno

Imo it was a catch 22 for Fauci: either say that yeah masks will help, or try to help the frontliners. Maybe he should have stuck to the science and said yeah masks will work but please don't buy them, thereby transferring the responsibility to us. Tough.
 

GAJ

Well-known member
Fauci says that telling people not to wear (buy) masks sent mixed messages. https://www.kpcw.org/post/fauci-mixed-messaging-masks-set-us-public-health-response-back#stream/0

To me, I thought it was clear he said that so as to not have us buy up all the supplies like the hoarders we are, like Yakoo says. And there was reason to believe that PPEs were in short supply for the hospitals, from multiple sources. And the simple fact that hospital staff still uses surgical masks instead of N95s tells me he was right. The consuming public would have gobbled up any supply that could be sold...maybe good for ultimately stopping the initial surge, or maybe really bad for hospital workers. :dunno

Imo it was a catch 22 for Fauci: either say that yeah masks will help, or try to help the frontliners. Maybe he should have stuck to the science and said yeah masks will work but please don't buy them, thereby transferring the responsibility to us. Tough.

We had 10 masks IIRC, 8 were in the box, 2 were not so we gave the 8 to a nurse.

Never wore the 2 and still have them.

Wearing masks made by my sister in law.
 
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